anyone with any kind of hobby or interest is considered sad by the general population, Your only cool if you sit in every night watching TV and go for a beer friday sat night. You go to a dub show do you really see loads of sad geeky anoraks. No, most are cool tatted well dressed stylish people. my cousen/ boss was on about how modded cars are sad.. when asked which he would rather be seen in, the vr6 golf or a 1.4 clio he picked the golf