it's because the suspension is so soft mate i have 17's and this is how low my car is and it never rubs even 5 up [img width=600]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/ciaranboylan/vr116.jpg [img width=600]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/ciaranboylan/vr099.jpg Resized pics, craggsy Moderator edit by: craggsy