SEe thats what i was thinking. Saw a V6 4Motion Bora on fleabay, Cat C, went for £1200. 30k on the clock, but who does that kind of mod and it must cost a fortune! Would not want to go 4WD, so there would be quite a bit of work involved and then cos most of the bits would be either custom built(exhausts etc.) or at least non standard, the running cost would be astronomical! Are those Rados 2WD or 4WD? 5 or 6 speed box? WOuld there be a performance gain with a 2WD 24V over a standard VR6 and a V6 4Motion?