Yes mate the very same, do you know something I don't?? &| lol.........Only that I was going to get them too they look great but I wanted so see what they looked in the flesh first...they told me they had some on order but they were so vague and none of them seemed to know any thing about the wheels I ended up getting some rh split's instead.....do you know what tyres you are getting as £100 pounds for 4 tyres seemed very cheap to me ?! Tommy,