hi guys,dont know if this is the right place to post but ah well,i have had my 4 motion for a week now and what a car so much more refined than the mk3 maybe not quite as quick but a lot more quieter,the grip is awesome in the wet,dont know how many mk4 4x4 owners on here but let me know how you find them to the mk3,i suppose i had better change my name now as well. regards