vr's eat type r's , standard.. and a boosted one , well i havent had so much fun in ages. best thing is, is that its silent, until i go past you.. kev, perhaps a colchester meet should be arranged, exhchange road stories etc. i remember one of strech's mates (alex i think) had a lotus esprit twin turbo, spent shed loads on it, and i canned him down the 12 in my then 200sx .. i did feel sorry for him, it lasted all of 2 secs , then again so did his engine