Rustyman 0 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Been watching way too much Motorsport of late... I always see dry ice used to be packed around F1 rad's etc..My question is has anyone tried using it in a enclosed air box assembly so that the airfliter draws in cold air across the maff into the intake ??? And potentially some extra BHP !! ??What do we think ?Mike Link to post Share on other sites
Rustyman 0 Posted October 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 p.s forgot to add that if anyone knows hwere i can get some dry ice too that would help !! Link to post Share on other sites
cabrioman 6 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 i know people use just ICE in charge coolers but what your thinking not sure Link to post Share on other sites
bungy 2 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Co2 extinguisher? Link to post Share on other sites
Caddyslammed 16 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 i know people use just ICE in charge coolers but what your thinking not sure same, or water solution intercooler sprays etc, have put blocks of ice on my old top mount intercooler before, but never tried to cool air going into an NA intake other than cold air feed etc. NOS kinda gives the same effect Link to post Share on other sites
Rustyman 0 Posted October 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 It's a crazy idea but simple... the actual physics should work and i don't see why it couldn't be used in conjunction with Nos or a charge cooler... and it should work well with Turbo to help lower temps and increase boost ??? Link to post Share on other sites
Caddyslammed 16 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Well JDM STI scoobs they come with intercooler spray as standard, pretty widely used concept really, cooling intake temps, charge temps etc.Not sure how well it would work with dry ice and really cold temps like that, kinda hard for all the electronics to compute and keep safe etc maybe?, in my mind quite hard to keep consistant gains maybe?, just good for a launch boost or strip run? . Link to post Share on other sites
Caddyslammed 16 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Great idea though Link to post Share on other sites
Rustyman 0 Posted October 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 Idea was to fab up a troff that the RAM air filter sits in that is insulated with kingsspan wall insulation and the dry ice sits in a slab under the filter ... It was a simplified idea that wouldn't require me to get the aqua mist type thing going ,,, ghetto performance lol... Link to post Share on other sites
Daverse 175 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Share Posted October 21, 2011 As for electronics, they work better in colder environments, but I think your MAF will get buggerd if you start blasting freezing air over it.. Link to post Share on other sites
gavinvr6 0 Posted October 22, 2011 Report Share Posted October 22, 2011 try searching co2 cooleing kits. can get an intake bomb, fuel line freezer plus intercooler block. demon tweeks used to sell them Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 If dry ice is frozen carbon dioxide, would sucking that into the engine not extinguish the flame? lol :-) Link to post Share on other sites
Rustyman 0 Posted October 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 This is a good point !! Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 You'd need to put the dry ice into some kind of sealed container that the air intake kind sucks around, if that makes sense?! I'd love to know if a regular A/C system is powerful enough to chill boosted air. I have a feeling it isn't. How about a truck A/C system? LOL! Link to post Share on other sites
Daverse 175 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 You'd need to put the dry ice into some kind of sealed container that the air intake kind sucks around' date=' if that makes sense?! I'd love to know if a regular A/C system is powerful enough to chill boosted air. I have a feeling it isn't. How about a truck A/C system? LOL![/quote']Only one way to find out! Link to post Share on other sites
Rustyman 0 Posted October 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 I have a plan then ... you can buy slices of dry ice if i fab up a box with hollow sides and drop the ice between thesen the air is drawn through the box opening and chilled by the sides of the bo then on to the RAM air filter... Link to post Share on other sites
85jas 0 Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 We use dry ice at work all the time - I think it's a great idea! Some sort of heat exchanger is a must though, I reckon the best bet would be to modify the top of a standard airbox presenting a cold surface to the air coming out the filter. A handy hint is to use dry ice slush - mix the pelleted dry ice with a solvent (meths works well), increases the conduction of heat to the ice. Bit of a fire hazard though... best to have a good breather for the dry ice reservior. One problem you will have is the water freezing out of the air onto the cold surface insulating it - from -78 degrees to 0 degrees Will have to chip it off after a few drag runs!!!If you do knock up a box I'd love to see some photos! Link to post Share on other sites
Rustyman 0 Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 As soon as i can i will get some Aluminium sheet ... i plan to double wall the side and base on the outter section use some kingspan wall insulation foam block then the 2nd wall pocket houses the dry ice the cold surface of the metal cools the air flowing into the filter ... Link to post Share on other sites
Rustyman 0 Posted November 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2011 Shelving the idea as measuring it all up it's soooo tight for space with the RAM Air filter i have ... BUGGER Link to post Share on other sites
Antihero1981 8 Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 get a charger , charge cooler kit and run dry ice...i think the impact on NA cars will be min....it will be like driving the car on a very cold morning , will feel more beefy... Link to post Share on other sites
Rustyman 0 Posted November 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 I'm staying NA as the ££££ is somthing i don't have .... Link to post Share on other sites
Antihero1981 8 Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 no worries , i would look at the normal mods , power to weight ect ect....... Link to post Share on other sites
Rustyman 0 Posted November 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Done... no seats other than drivers .. roll cage and plenty lightening Link to post Share on other sites
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