leespiro 9 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 hi guys jsut beem on the castrol website and they recommend to use castrol edge 5w 30 6 litres magantec 10w-40 a3/a4 what u guys reckon Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 not castrol !!! get the synta silver mate its the best oil for vr's Link to post Share on other sites
Caddyslammed 16 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 can you only get the synta silver from the VW dealers? Link to post Share on other sites
bungy 2 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Or from TPS Link to post Share on other sites
cornishvr6 52 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 do castrol produce the synta oil tho? Link to post Share on other sites
eastwood john 1 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 wots the difference we castrol and synta as long as its the right grade (10w-40) *-) Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 here you go John the cheaper the oil the worse it is for your engine in simple terms due to the other parts that make it The Oil Additive PackageMuch of the talk about oil revolves around the basestock (which does represent around80%), but modern oils contain so much more. Here are some of the additives that can bepresent in a simple can of oil. Don't get these confused with the aftermarket additvesavailable from many retailers.Anti-Ageing Additives (oxidation inhibitors)At higher temperatures, oil molecules react with the oxygen in the air. In addition, metalsurfaces act as catalysts to such reactions. The results of oil ageing are:Increase in viscosity (oil thickening)Formation of residues (coke, sludge, etc.)Corrosion resulting from the acids formedThe inclusion of antioxidants in lubricant formulations can either avoid or slow these effects.Proven oxidation inhibitors are nitrogen, phosphorous and sulphur compounds (amines,phenols together with zinc, calcium, etc.).Detergent and Dispersant Additives (dirt carriers)The task of these additives is to hinder the coagulation of oil-insoluble residues such asresins and asphalt-based oxidation products and thus combat sludge deposits and oilthickening.Moreover, these additives dissolve residues (cleaning effect) and neutralise acids. Theseadditives can sometimes include succinimides, neutral metal sulpho-nates, phenolates,phosphates, thiophosphates, polymer detergents, amine compounds, sulphonates, highlymolecular organic lime, lead and zinc salts, etc.EP Additives (Extreme Pressure additives)EP or anti-wear additives are used to increase load carrying capacity and reduce wear inboundary friction conditions (e.g. on cams, gear teeth, tappets, etc.). They work by formingmetallic surface layers which prevent roughness peaks from welding together in boundaryfriction conditions and enabling metal surfaces to slide without wear by reducing friction.The following agents are sometimes used:Oil Additiveszinc dialkyl dithiophosphate, tricresylphosphate,organic phosphates as well as sulphur andnitrogen compounds.Viscosity Index Improvers (VI improvers)These are substances (oil-soluble polymers) which improve the viscosity-temperaturebehaviour of mineral oils, i.e. they reduce the influence of temperature on viscosity. At lowtemperatures, they improve flowing characteristics and at high temperatures, they increaseviscosity.Products used include polymethacrylates (PMA), olefincopolymers (OCP), polyisobuthylenes(PIB) and styrol-butadien-copolymers (SBC).As VI improvers are very shear-sensitive, multigrade oils with wide viscosity ranges (i.e. 5W-40, 10W-40 etc.) should be formulated with unconventional base oils (e.g.hydrocracked oils,polyalphaolefins) which have much better natural VI characteristics.Pour Point DepressantsOils get increasingly viscous as their temperature falls until they cease to flow and start tosolidify. This is caused by the crystallisation of paraffin molecules. The inclusion of additivessuch as polymethacrylate, alkyl-phenols, naphthaline with chlorinated paraffins, propylenecopolymers,etc. lowers the temperature at which solidification occurs.Anti-Foaming AgentsPolysilicones (silicone polymerisates), polyethyleneglycol esters, etc. reduce foamingcaused by churning. Excess foaming (air-oil mixtures) can result in inadequate lubrication.Seizures to bearings can occur if the oil pump draws oil-air foam instead of oil.Friction ModifiersThese are surface-active substances which reduce frictional losses in boundary frictionconditions and create defined frictional behaviour. This improves the efficiency of machinery.The substances used include fatty acids, fatty acid derivates, organic amines, aminephosphates,etc.As you can see, these additives are extremely important components of the oil, yet in budgetoils, the quality of the additive package is one of the first things to be reduced to savemoney. Reducing the quality of the additives is a less obvious way of reducing the quality ofthe oil than using a cheaper basestock oil, but as you can see from the information above,the additive package is just as important as the basestock of the oil. Link to post Share on other sites
eastwood john 1 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 jesus diddent expect a reply like that ben lol, lots of great big long words that never seen or herd ov before,but all makes sense thought castrol was not a cheap option though, Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Bens copy and pasting from the oilman lol Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 damn straight craggers Link to post Share on other sites
eastwood john 1 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 didnt think ben wrote it craig, no spelling mistakes lol, |-) Link to post Share on other sites
leespiro 9 Posted January 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 great replys so it defo the synta silver 10-40 oil for the vr then is there a place i can order online also is a engine flush good for the vr Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Audi-VW-Quantum-SYNTA-Oil-5-Litres-10w-40-/150544055903?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item230d1ffe5f here you go mate and yeah an oil change is defo a good thing and replace the filter at the same time they are pretty cheap from your local GSF or Euro Car parts Link to post Share on other sites
eastwood john 1 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 when first had vr used 5w someting and always topping up every 2 weeks or so - now use 10w-40 and all ok no oil loss at all, think next time oil change due will be popping over to gsf, thanks vr6oc, Link to post Share on other sites
VeedubVR 0 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Does it matter how many miles the engine has on it?I need to buy new oil for when it gets its nre and improved (plated) sump fitted on thursday. Link to post Share on other sites
Antihero1981 8 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 na not really , Link to post Share on other sites
CALICO 130 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Audi-VW-Quantum-SYNTA-Oil-5-Litres-10w-40-/150544055903?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item230d1ffe5f here you go mate and yeah an oil change is defo a good thing and replace the filter at the same time they are pretty cheap from your local GSF or Euro Car parts cheaper at TPS i paid that for 10 litres Link to post Share on other sites
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