brynvr6,,they are actually nitron racing springs which are 10.5 " long x 325lb cos we where loosing hight out of the body by removing the cups(top mounts)so wheel size went up to regain full strut travel so hence uprated springs...but am toying with scooby or GT4 front shocks (shorter) oh i stumbled across the nitron web site and they actually make a custom race set up for a couple of grand look`s nice though..