vr6highline28 0 Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 sounds stupid but was working on my car and set the closure alarm (factory fitted Thatcham 1 job) - the drivers window automatically closed and i (bizarrely !) got my arm caught between the window and door frame near the wrist - i couldn't believe that the motor was continuing to try and shut the window and the force on my wrist caused me to lose all circulation into my hand meaning the hand contracted on its on ! i tried to reverse the alarm but the window still kept pressing - no joke the force of it was quite unbelieveable and i could not release my arm at all - got it sorted by a neighbour coming round and prising it away using 2 screwdrivers ....... made me realise how dangerous these things can be (if you're stupid enough to get ure arm in the way !!) Link to post Share on other sites
jb9999 0 Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Be thankful it wasn't your neck stuck then. Link to post Share on other sites
Russ_vr6 12 Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 thats the prob with full closure i havent found an alarm that has a safety feature on the window yet Link to post Share on other sites
badboyV6 4 Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 all new cars have a safety device built in- if it senses pressure before fully closed it goes straight back down.... Link to post Share on other sites
vr6matt 0 Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 not good mate, am glad you are okay though. Link to post Share on other sites
B6MFD 0 Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 mine goes back down if it feels something... Link to post Share on other sites
spanky 0 Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 My windows go down if the there is any resistance felt whilst shutting, may only be on the later ones though!! Sorry to hear that mate! Link to post Share on other sites
Earwig 89 Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Mine shuts off and goes down to "R plate"When my windows go up they normally "Click" when they are fully shut, I guess this is the same feature.Our N plate GTI does the same....... What year is your car?Mark. Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Pete 1,455 Posted May 18, 2006 Report Share Posted May 18, 2006 Same as the majority here Link to post Share on other sites
Maz 0 Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 oh that's not good, i'd best check mine before the kids chop each others heads off with it, was a new alarm i had put on a couple of months ago so am hoping it has anti-death features included. Link to post Share on other sites
mk3anni 0 Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 The anti death feature will be down to the window reg not the alarm.You could just not stick your hand in it!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
vr6highline28 0 Posted May 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 i know not the cleverist thing to do ! was trying to retrieve something left on the dashboard - my fault but more concerned for accidents if children about - the car is a '97 model highline - i still dont have full feeling in my hand and it was over a week ago ! Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Rich 3 Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 I think it will not close normally if something is obstructing the window but on full closure you dont really want to walk away from you car and activate the alarm and it not shutting all the windows because somebody has put there arm in there when your back is turned.... Link to post Share on other sites
mk3anni 0 Posted May 19, 2006 Report Share Posted May 19, 2006 I think it will not close normally if something is obstructing the window but on full closure you dont really want to walk away from you car and activate the alarm and it not shutting all the windows because somebody has put there arm in there when your back is turned....Very true, a guess the best idea would be to chop off the arm of anyone who tried to obstruct the window, so with that in mind it works perfectly!! Link to post Share on other sites
vr6madmike 0 Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 The safety feature wont be active as part pf the alarm only during normal window operation. Lucky you didnt burn the motor out! Link to post Share on other sites
antera309 3 Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 I remember speaking to my local alarm fitters (who have done alarm installs on my last three cars) about this very issue.All three systems were total closure, and on all of them I have had to physically hold down a special button on the remote to get the windows to wind up after locking. I asked the fitters if it was possible to have the windows wind up automatically after locking the car so I could just press one button and walk away. They said that setting it up in this way INVALIDATES the Thatcham 1 approval of the system, due to the safety issues - people getting arms caught in the windows and secondly dogs getting left in a hot car with no ventilation. This makes sense, I suppose.If what my fitters told me is correct. you could have problems with an insurance claim if your insurers inspect the car and find the total closure to be working in the way you describe. Link to post Share on other sites
SankysVR6 1 Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 sorry to hear that Adrian, sounds painfull glad to see your ok thou. Link to post Share on other sites
vr6highline28 0 Posted May 22, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 cheers sanky - hand still a bit iffy but should get the feeling back eventually ! i still cant believe the force behind the window ........ on the Thatcham 1 issue thats an interesting point as my alarm is a factory fitted conlog (?) system which has the cat 1 bit ticked on the installation certificate - luckily my insurance only asks if an alarm is fitted (not whether Cat 1 etc) so shouldn't be a problem though certainly worth considering for the future ! Link to post Share on other sites
mk3anni 0 Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 TBH had it been me i'd have had a go at smashing the window, not risking my hand over the cost of a piece of glass! Link to post Share on other sites
vr6highline28 0 Posted May 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 my girlfriend tried to smash the glass 4 times with a torque wrench and unbelieveably the glass didnt give way - only 4 tiny scratches showing ! i think that proves how desperate i was getting !!! Link to post Share on other sites
mk3anni 0 Posted May 26, 2006 Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 Considered investing in a stronger gf??? Link to post Share on other sites
vr6highline28 0 Posted May 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2006 i'm sending her down the gym now for when my other arm gets trapped ............ Link to post Share on other sites
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