Petesvw 0 Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Sorry in advance, but after today, i'm sick.Not only did i NOT vote for this guy, but even when the bulk of the country objected,(to war) and against the whole european union, he still bloody brown nosed BUSH, and went to war.And are we surprised today? Yes. And are we gutted? Yes.Innocent people today died for americas crusade. And tony's stupidity.Say what you will, but that is my 2pence. Link to post Share on other sites
DundeeDub 0 Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 It would have happened anyway, its about the G8 not the war, I didn't vote for him either, i'm a true SNP man myself.I think the country in general is fucked and it seems to be digging a deeper hole all the time.Can't wait to emmigrate Link to post Share on other sites
Nerih 0 Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 either way the radicalists will come and attack Link to post Share on other sites
binliner 0 Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 I didnt vote for Blair but I don't see you can blame him for yesterday... 9/11 happened before the war and anyway do u think we wouldnt have gone to war if someone else was in power? The people to blame are the cowards that planted the bombs Link to post Share on other sites
jezmoz 0 Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 It would have happened anyway' date=' its about the G8 not the war, I didn't vote for him either, i'm a true SNP man myself.I think the country in general is fucked and it seems to be digging a deeper hole all the time.Can't wait to emmigrate[/quote']I don't think G8 protesters would mame innocent people, it kind of goes against what they are trying to achieve. It's either the taliban or the french , cause we got the olympics! I'll go with iraqi terrorists , they wouldn't think twice about killing innocent people, they behead people for the fun of it, evil fuckers Link to post Share on other sites
binliner 0 Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 I think he meant it was timed to coincide with G8 not done by G8 protesters Link to post Share on other sites
purple highline monster 0 Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 whatever government & whatever history, terrorists are evil cowardly people who seek to undermine a society and turn each other against each other with mistrust and fear, i say FUCK EM if their belief is that strong put a combat jacket on and step out in the open, like a real "soldier" and preach your hatred, religion is a thin disguise for murder you evil people, us as decent people will always out weigh the scum that also walks our earth. (put my soap box away now) Link to post Share on other sites
jezmoz 0 Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 ahh yes that i thought that, takes the focus off them Link to post Share on other sites
Nerih 0 Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 they are coming for us. Link to post Share on other sites
pete8tch 0 Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 i blame the parents , which is actually not a flippant remark . how can u rationalise with people brought up with so much hatred disguised as religious fervor that they are HAPPY! to blow themselves to bits or steer a plane into a building .the sheer lunacy of a people that can distort what i understand to be a tolerant religion to suit there own twisted viewpoint are beyond the point of negotiation .an expert yesterday was saying that with the ira its a conditional threat give in to there demands and they would stop , these maniacs though its just that they want to kill people who disagree with them . Link to post Share on other sites
purple highline monster 0 Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 centurys of religeous conflict have resulted in the world as it is today, all the wars and conflicts in history have been caused by beliefs and ideals, lets face it could you reason with hitler or sadam? i doubt it religeous and political madmen imo who set their will and ideals on a peoples unable to know different or what the far reaching concequence may be, i have friends from most religeous beliefs but i dont think any faith upholds the murder and slaughter of innocent people as a purpose or part of its beliefs? these people truely are the infidels and surely will rot in hell. Link to post Share on other sites
Bampson 0 Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 my question is . has anyone looked into why they are doing all this shit ? i am not defending what was done in any way , in fact i deplore it . but we (the west ) have been doing terable shit for years which doesn't get the publicity a bomb in london gets .. Link to post Share on other sites
Petesvw 0 Posted July 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 I agree, but i still think if we hadn't of sided with the U.S, we wouldn't have been the next target! Link to post Share on other sites
Bampson 0 Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 true but hey ,, no turning back now .. reep what you sew and all that ....... Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 my question is . has anyone looked into why they are doing all this shit ? i am not defending what was done in any way ' date=' in fact i deplore it . but we (the west ) have been doing terable shit for years which doesn't get the publicity a bomb in london gets .. [/quote']iv been thinking this for bloody ages it worries me that the general population r not told y they r doing it our governments surely know?? Link to post Share on other sites
antera309 3 Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 I'm no fan of Blair, and I certainly didn't vote for him, but I think that the terrorism situation would be the same regadless of who we had in power.The people that commit this mass murder object to our entire way of life, not individual politicians, governments or their policies.They want to build an empire in the Middle East where the people are brainwashed and living a "backward" existance. They're frustrated because the US and its Allies won't let this happen.And quite rightly so. If we let them have what they want, it would be like Nazi Germany all over again.I agree that Blair's dealings with Bush look like blatant buttlicking, but this is just because he is such a weak character. Thatcher & Reagan did it so much better. Link to post Share on other sites
Bampson 0 Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 mate .. afetr that statement you seem like the brainwashed one ..... read up on some of the history .. and why some of the leaders that are in power in some of these places are ther now and who put them there .. Link to post Share on other sites
purple highline monster 0 Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 fanatics and greed, fighting for a cause THEY believe in and can see nothing else but their own visions of how the world should be, i have to say its utter bollox about blair or bush, whatever people happened to be in power it would still be the same, the JIHAD is a religous war that has existed for ages, the muslim faith has nothing to do with these people, as it does not uphold the murder of people but embraces peace and understanding, fanatics, we have seen it before with our own religous terrorists, the IRA, now we sit around a table and talk to these murderers, which i think is wrong but it keeps the peace and at least we know who they are, we at no point atacked these people, september 11th started this whole afghan/iraq war rolling, lets face it guys if the supposed taliban leaders in afghanistan murder people for reading a book on the local football pitch then they gotta be dangerous people? cowardly faceless brain washed morons, i do hope there isnt an alah waiting for these people! Link to post Share on other sites
uber-tub 0 Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 Throughout history there have beenmillions of murders in the name of religion. Religion is the interpretation of ones spiritual beliefs. There are a huge number of basic similarities throughout all religions in that they all worship a GOD figure and act according to their god's wishes - a religious code of life.Now, I haven't been to a church in twenty years and I do not call my self a follower of any religion ( other than the church of the VW Golf, AMEN! ) but I haven't murdered anyone lately either. I can't help wondering how all this violence and hatred fits in with a godly code for living... no matter what religion. How would any god worthy of worship be pleased by these attrocities?Religion is a nice idea but it's unfortunately manipulated by greedy humans for their own ends. Rant over. Link to post Share on other sites
Bampson 0 Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 guys .. i think you are all missing the point.. we (the west) have been sponsers of one side aginst the other in places like iraq and afganistan for years .. what we are now experiencing is revenge not religion (although pedomintly vented through one religious group). reason is we were sponsering the dimise of thier religion.. now they have stoped fighting the pupets and come to the west to fight the puppet masters the only way they know how .. i dont condone this in any way . neither do i condone what was done in the 60's and 70's by us ... Link to post Share on other sites
purple highline monster 0 Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 mmm the middle east has always been a powder keg!!! extremists everywhere, look at afghanistan, the russians tried and failed we did not! look at the oppresive regime the taliban had in place, horendous manipulation and control making the people of that country zombies, i had a friend killed in iraq last year by a suicide car bomber at a checkpoint, wheres the honour in that what has it achieved sadam was still caught, these puppets should realise they cant change the way it is, all of the west will be how it is regardless of what they do, lets face it they are the "little fish" in a big pond, hardly anyone believes in their jihad, and the sooner the capture of binladen by the americans (so he will face the death penalty) happens the better, but like all cowards he is off hiding and plotting, and sending his little brainwashed freaks out to do his work. Link to post Share on other sites
bazz780 0 Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 being a religious muslim myself i would like to say that no religion condems such behaviour, the term 'jihad' has been misunderstood, jihad is when one must fight for the protection of religion, i.e when muslims are being attacked. it is strange how every incident gets tagged as an 'al qaida' attack, there are extremists in every religion where people take twisted understandings of what is being said by the religion. bush and blair have been the real terrorists in my opinion, after the london bombings blair said 'these people have no value for human life' correct me if i am wrong but what they did in iraq and afghanistan did not show them to be any different, they blew up both these countries and still did not find bin laden, i do not support all the going ons today but bush and blair have not been the 'saviours' either, they have made many people angry who are now seeking revenge og muslims being murdered by the thousands in their sleep., where there is oil there is bush and blair otherwise their mission for world peace would have started in palestine/israel - they did not go there as there was nothing to gain (i.e. oil) strange how they targetted the wealthy countries first on a food for oil basis.i do hope all this ends soon and world peace is achieved, but to get there EVERY life should have a value not just british and american lives.... this is what bush and but kiss should understand.my 2pence.... Link to post Share on other sites
purple highline monster 0 Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 religon just causes hatred and mistrust it should be kept to the individual to follow what they believe, its not an identity its a belief so why does everyone else need to know what faith each other are? just being a decent person works for me and my god lives in wolfsburg!!! Link to post Share on other sites
bazz780 0 Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 thats what the americans could not accept, they want to 'westernise' countries that are minding their own business practicing their own religion, i.e afganistan - they were strict at practicing religion there but america had to go and westernise the country. i agree with you, religion should be left to individuals - but the people that dont understand this are the ones causing the problems and we are led to believe they are doing the right thing - that goes for bombers and our two bummy presidents Link to post Share on other sites
purple highline monster 0 Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 i cant agree with you on the afghanistan "minding their own buisness" the taliban were controling those people and executing anyone who they felt had made a mistake, what sort of country is that? murdering people on the local football pitch by hanging them from the goal posts or shooting them in the back of the head with an ak47 (i have seen it) isnt a religous belief is it? afghanistan produces 80% of the worlds opium, therefore most of the worlds heroin!!! thats why the taliban wanted control of its people and bin laden could make his empire, it didnt work, and i saw the day after the taliban were overthrown people shaving their beards off, listening to music just simple things that people all over the world do every day regardless of faith, they were an oppressed people now maybe they can re-build their country and if that means they end up with a mcdonals and a hard rock cafe then so be it, look at how russia used to be? you can practice a religon in any inviroment but it should not be forced at the hands of tyrants and murderers, its not perfect but its better than it was before imo Link to post Share on other sites
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