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    On 10/11/2016 at 11:31 AM, Farhad said:

    would of been better if it said vr6 at the front and back though. and why does it only have 5 air flowing intakes on top of the cover? thought it would have 6 as its suppose to be a 6 cylinder engine. 

    Go back to 2nd grade and learn how to count, there are 6.

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    I see 6, i would really like to see the actual block and head , i dont give a shyt about badges, you people are worried about badges? Really? Lol, any who , so yeah would live to see the congiuration on this machine, skeptic if its a true vr6 tho. 

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    1 hour ago, Guest Tom said:

    Go back to 2nd grade and learn how to count, there are 6.

     

    26 minutes ago, Guest Dave said:

    I see 6, i would really like to see the actual block and head , i dont give a shyt about badges, you people are worried about badges? Really? Lol, any who , so yeah would live to see the congiuration on this machine, skeptic if its a true vr6 tho. 

     

    I don't see 5 or 6 ! Its probably just how it looks with the cover on to be honest!

     

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    On 11/10/2016 at 4:31 PM, Farhad said:

    would of been better if it said vr6 at the front and back though. and why does it only have 5 air flowing intakes on top of the cover? thought it would have 6 as its suppose to be a 6 cylinder engine. 

    It has 6 tge black bits

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    On 04/01/2017 at 5:39 PM, Guest Tom said:

    Go back to 2nd grade and learn how to count, there are 6.

    Oh sorry I think you shoved the 6th one up your ass mate and no mate going back to school will only make you poorer you need to think out of the box and take ownership of your own life your clearly a sheep that wants to wrk all his life with no action plans lol sorry if Pete is reading this just hate dumb people commenting in such rude ways 

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    1 minute ago, Farhad said:

    Oh sorry I think you shoved the 6th one up your ass mate and no mate going back to school will only make you poorer you need to think out of the box and take ownership of your own life your clearly a sheep that wants to wrk all his life with no action plans lol sorry if Pete is reading this just hate dumb people commenting in such rude ways 

    That being said I do actually see 6 as I could have just counted the 6 spark plugs leads whatever you call em 

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    On 1/6/2017 at 9:02 AM, Farhad said:

    noticed it says v6 aswell would be cool if they did a proper revised vr6 15 degree displacement with those turbos but still this engine is awesome.

    In Europe they badge the MKIV golf as v6 and not VR6. It's still a VR just didn't say it

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    On Tuesday, October 11, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Farhad said:

    would of been better if it said vr6 at the front and back though. and why does it only have 5 air flowing intakes on top of the cover? thought it would have 6 as its suppose to be a 6 cylinder engine. 

    Huh.. where do you count 5 ??

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    My 2p;

     

    "Chinese tax bracket" - hope so, means the money persons are involved in additional units so more likely to get the go ahead. Personally hope that the boffins in white coats have Motorsport DNA in them and are sticking to the "lighter weight and power for a transverse engine bay" philosophy of the original VR6, plus modern cars are quite powerful so more cylinders and detuned would give the 5 pot F**d RS club (sorry for swearing ;)) a better run for the money (plus win over the journo's like the original with the throaty gruffness!).

     

    It doesn't matter if it has 5, 6 or 7 runners for air to be honest, it has collectors, number of coils probably matters though! You have the main area, so the maf goes to a single inlet to feed the twin turbo's (blue), which in turn collect via 2 compressor outlets to the main area in dark red. I reckon around there is where they will either add some sort of air or water/air cooler for future development, above exhaust is not best place though!

     So it goes to the main collector, the "torque path" if you will (interesting they didn't package tighter like a TFSI and kept long runners across the engine) - so the air collects there, where it's directed by 5-7 runners.

    Shame they didn't sit the engine more over the axle but I guess that traction management with slight understeer is the safe way to tune them, if still a little(!) forward sat - and are the mounts part in green a part of the new MQB set up they are all using so further proof they should get to work making these?

     

    vr6 tt

     

    Once past the main collector and down the runners, they then meet in another collector, you can see the shape of it under the plastic cowling;

     

    vr6 tt 2

     

    So, I guess it doesn't matter the number of runners then, stop arguing! ;)  Maximum flow looks important then up until this point with volume a large part - then you can see the hose shrinks to the "power path" lower manifold. Although this raises heat it does speed up the air flow which is good if you want it reverberating around this short path area - which is designed for quick air entering for top end.

     

    Nice to see the sensors in the "power path" manifold, I guess an aftermarket upgrade to short runner would have to be similar to the blue design added to the red bit? Or, I guess, someone's working on an integrated cooling system over the main collector/over the exhaust mani's, as we speak! 

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    On ‎4‎/‎3‎/‎2017 at 0:18 PM, Guest Philmo said:

    The six gaps are for injector wiring/cap access, surely. Not plugs or coil packs if it's a VR!

     

    Of course, Guest Felix is right - each of the 6 black covers a coil-pack top, these being central on the 24 valve version.

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