Tony from page 46... last I heard hvr6 wrote ... TG - Did you hear back from the hotel yet? Yes, but they didn't offer a discount. But it's normal price isn't bad compared to UK hotels, E45 PPPN B&B. We can book now with them directly ( http://www.goldfass.de/htm/reserv.htm ) but then we would have different cancellation conditions than if we waited and booked using an internet engine ( http://www-eifel.tkn-rlp.de/show_hotel.asp?RG=IT&ID=95001186 ). My suggestion for making the hotel stay cheaper is to eat at one of the pizzerias between the 'Ring and the hotel and spending less time