amit 0 Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 hiya.....just wanted to know where everyone has plumbed their cold air feed for their induction kits. Is their a particular place around the vr engines. Also can someone put me out of my misery and explain to me, what those cute looking little minature filters are i keep seeing on max power car engines. There really small around 10cm if that. Ive heard they are called oil breathers. Is worth setting up one on vr's and how do you do it? Any help appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites
binliner 0 Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 To put in my cold air feed I took out the carbon canister (plugged one of the hoses) and run some very flexible samco ducting through the hole it left and around the air con bottle to the small lower front grill.you can put an oil breather filter on to the cam cover breather to replace the factory breather pipes, which basically vent the oily fumes back into the air intake... this will help prevent gunk getting into the throttle body Link to post Share on other sites
amit 0 Posted June 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 cheers for that...... are these viper air induction kits any good. i havent come across anyone on this site that has fitted one. People seem to be going for the BMCA sealed air filters. Link to post Share on other sites
binliner 0 Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 I dont know anyone who has a viper kit so cant comment but theyre about £250, £100 more than a bmc - which is already quite expensive, cant imagine theyd be soo good they'd warrant that price Link to post Share on other sites
eViL 0 Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Can't see em being any better than the BMC system..I had the Viper Kit on My Peugeot 106 GTi and it was brilliant! I remember shortly after the BMC kit came out and was getting even better reviews..so..BMC it is. Link to post Share on other sites
amit 0 Posted June 1, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 yo evil..... what size rims u got on? they look huge! Link to post Share on other sites
speedo 0 Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Go BMC there the 8ollock5....Leave well alone the oil breather filter as it causes the car to smell of oil inside, plus it will drip oil onto the exhaust manifold at an alarming rate :@ Link to post Share on other sites
shail 0 Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 ---Binliner ---What does the carbon canister actually do? Ive been trying to geta cold air feed to my BMC & have an intermittent problem with my carbon canister on VAG-COM - so removal would kill 2 birds with one stone for me. Link to post Share on other sites
eViL 0 Posted June 1, 2004 Report Share Posted June 1, 2004 Only 17's dude. 2 are busted now unfortunately.. I'm considering going to 16's. Link to post Share on other sites
binliner 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Go BMC there the 8ollock5....Leave well alone the oil breather filter as it causes the car to smell of oil inside' date=' plus it will drip oil onto the exhaust manifold at an alarming rate :@ [/quote']I attached my breather filter to a length of hose and ran it to the wing to avoid those problems Link to post Share on other sites
binliner 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 ---Binliner ---What does the carbon canister actually do? Ive been trying to geta cold air feed to my BMC & have an intermittent problem with my carbon canister on VAG-COM - so removal would kill 2 birds with one stone for me. the carbon canister has 2 hoses attached to it... basically one of them is a vent from the fuel system, the carbon canister filters what is vented before returning it via the 2nd hose to the air intake. Its only actually necessary for US emission laws. If you remove it leave the clear hose open (thats the vent) and just block the black hose (the return) with a bolt... let them hang down through the hole where the cc was so the fumes are vented out of the car and hold them in place with a couple of cable ties Link to post Share on other sites
alivr6 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 kool looks like my cc is out on the next service atleast that way i can throw the bmc down there for direct cold air feed Link to post Share on other sites
antera309 3 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 And here's how to do it without removing the Carbon Canister. This is for a BMC CDA, but the PiperX Viper should be similar. Note that this procedure only applies to cars WITHOUT air-con.Refer to Guides section - BMC CDA Installation for full procedure with pictures.[ Edited Thu Jun 03 2004, 10:19AM ] Link to post Share on other sites
binliner 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Excellent job mate... and good pics and guide. Unfortunately that way isnt possible on cars with aircon... on aircon equipped cars you have to take out the cc (to run the bmc sized air feed anyway)(except for some early cars ie Nickbees before he mentions it!) Link to post Share on other sites
antera309 3 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 The end result looks like this when you've cut & shaped the lower grille cover:[ Edited Wed Jun 02 2004, 08:18PM ] Link to post Share on other sites
antera309 3 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Oh god, yes. I forgot to mention that this guide only applies to cars without aircon. I have edited the procedure so that it makes this clear now.If you've got aircon, the evaporator and drier obstruct the offside front corner of the car behind the bumper & grille.For cars with aircon, the carbon canister would DEFINITELY have to come out, and even then the installation will be tricky. Use flexible rubber hose instead of the supplied aluminium hose, and you've got a chance.[ Edited Wed Jun 02 2004, 10:28PM ] Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olly_K Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 top guide mate. think i'll put this in the guide bit Link to post Share on other sites
antera309 3 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Thanks!!I have already emailed it to Pete in HTML format for inclusion in the guides section. Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 is that bottom grill where the outside temp thing sits i dont hav a grill and the temp doesnt work?? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olly_K Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 cool cool cool !think i might remove my cc. how easy is it to take the bumper off ?i know on mk2 golfs its easy ! Link to post Share on other sites
antera309 3 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 Yes, the outside temp sensor plugs into this lower grill, but it's at the end closest to the numberplate, so the sensor is not disrupted at all.To remove the bumper, first take off the front grille (including the metal bit that goes underneath the headlamps). You will see 3 10mm bolts in the top of the bumper between the headlamps. Remove these.Then look on the underside of the bumper below the numberplate. More 10mm bolts here (5, I think).On the rear edge of the bumper, under the front wheelarch, there are two plastic retainers which fix the bumper to the wheelarch liner. Remove these, both sides.Then remove the indicator, foglamps & tow eye cover on both sides. You will see two 13mm bolts on each side underneath where the tow eye covers were. Remove these and the bumper just pulls off forwards. Link to post Share on other sites
binliner 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 you dont have to remove the indicators etc, just unplug them from the back. Looks a neat job nick, did you notice any difference with the air feed on? its certainly quieter isnt it Link to post Share on other sites
binliner 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 this is how mine looks... you can see what a squeeze it is to get round the aircon. I actually took these pics after I sprayed the bumper which is why theyre focusing on the bumper rather than the air feed! Link to post Share on other sites
antera309 3 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 I found it easier to do the job with the indicators and foglamps off the car as it gave me another hole in the bumper I could stick my hands through to manouver things around!I noticed a definite improvement in the pickup after fitting the cold air pipe, especially at speed on the motorway. It also muted the induction noise a bit. Again, good for motorway cruising.Your install looks pretty neat too. The end-piece on your pipe looks different to the one I was supplied with.[ Edited Wed Jun 02 2004, 10:07PM ] Link to post Share on other sites
blackburnvr6 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Share Posted June 2, 2004 without sounding daft can water get draged in wen fitting it this way likewen raining?? Link to post Share on other sites
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