MURPHY 0 Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Hi all,Ive recently bought a 96 vr, as far as im aware they are 175bhp at the wheels standard? Is this right? How much torque do they have? Anyway im looking for the easiest route to 200bhp, dont really wanna start fiddling with cams, porting, polishing etc etc as i did all that in my pug and it gets expensive!! Any ideas people...?Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
binliner 0 Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 174bhp at the flywheel is the factory figure and the torque is about the same lb/ft I think although a lot of VRs seem to be over 180bhp as standard. Bad news is there isnt really a cheap route to 200bhp+ Link to post Share on other sites
gazbrook 0 Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 my car was standard and then i got a superchip fitted and a full stainless exhaust, my figure at the flywheel was 188 bhp, now if you believe the figures pipercross vipers are supposed kick out ,approx 12bhp ,that should put you smack on 200 bhp for approx £750 ,i'm not convinced that an induction kit can give that sort of increase(cold air or not) but if it only gave you maybe 7 bhp that would put you up at 195 bhp which is practically 200 bhp anyway , enjoy the vr!! Link to post Share on other sites
gazbrook 0 Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 my car was standard and then i got a superchip fitted and a full stainless exhaust, my figure at the flywheel was 188 bhp, now if you believe the figures pipercross vipers are supposed kick out ,approx 12bhp ,that should put you smack on 200 bhp for approx £750 ,i'm not convinced that an induction kit can give that sort of increase(cold air or not) but if it only gave you maybe 7 bhp that would put you up at 195 bhp which is practically 200 bhp anyway , enjoy the vr!! Link to post Share on other sites
MURPHY 0 Posted May 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Ah its at the fly and not the wheels!! D'oh! What sort of transmission loss do the vr's suffer? Link to post Share on other sites
VRmonster 1 Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 a standard vr is roughly 150 bhp i believe, obviously varying loads for different vehicles due to more worn engines/drivetrain etc. so compared to most cars its not too bad. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Olly_K Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 erm......my last rolling road printout says transmission loss 32%. gonna get a nice straight cut gearbox methinks when i can afford it:) Link to post Share on other sites
VRmonster 1 Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 ouch. whats the link to the rolling road shootout results. so i can have a look at the differences in flywheel power and wheel power. Link to post Share on other sites
Macca 1 Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Cheapest way to get from 174 to 200bhp..... take a trip to Stealth's rollers!! Link to post Share on other sites
tommy 0 Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 Cheapest way to get from 174 to 200bhp..... take a trip to Stealth's rollers!!lol Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted May 19, 2004 Report Share Posted May 19, 2004 i wouldn't worry too much about bhp MURPHY, its torque that counts on road. again, theres no cheap way to improve on that, best is to fit a schrik.however, the vr6 has really poor gear ratio's for accelaration, so if you want to lower the 0-60 you may wanna look there first. i believe a change of final drive ratios has a huge effect, a lsd or atb is also a very good addition to help traction. Link to post Share on other sites
MURPHY 0 Posted May 20, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 What sort of increase can i expect to get from a re-map / chip, pipe and a filter? Also where is stealth rollers as ive heard a lot about them? Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Steve 0 Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 My guess is 12 bhp from chip, 3 bhp exhaust and 3 bhp from a filter. Well thats my guesstimates. Link to post Share on other sites
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