Proposed changes to 2011 MOT :(

[Ben Seabrook 4]

Some of these could be interesting although none of them are confirmed yet I don't think !!

2011 VOSA changes to MOT

Still 13 months away until these new regulations come into force, but some interesting changes. From MOT from December 2011, the below changes will come into force, which will be very bad news for some.

HID lights – Specifically those aftermarket kits that give the very bright headlight beams. Any cars found with these kits will be an automatic MOT failure. Testers are able to easily spot the difference between HID kits, and manufacturer fitted Xenon’s. Easy to spot as Xenon cars have suspension level sensors, in car beam adjuster, and usually headlight washers.

Chipped ECU’s - Unsure of just how/if this one will realistically be enforced, but any cars with chipped ECU’s will in theory be an MOT failure. I can only assume VOSA have found an easy way of checking ECU software through the cars OBD port (diagnostic plug).

Wiring harness – The general condition of he wiring harness will be checked to make sure there is no rubbing or chaffing, and that the harnesses are in generally good condition. If unsecure, or damaged again MOT failure.

Airbag warning lights - If any warning lights are illuminated, it will again be an MOT failure.

[b19drg 0]

Interesting stuff aint it glad It don't affect me

[Ben Seabrook 4]

Interesting stuff aint it glad It don't affect me

thought you were planning on going F/I ?? with the hids it will just be another case of swapping them in and out for mot time - wiring harness is sensible so is airbag and I cant see how they will do the ECU check !!

[dman78 1]

so as im going F/I and getting remapped it will be a failure?

[Ben Seabrook 4]

no Dan I cant see how they are going to enforce that one !! plus if like me your ecu has been remapped rather than had a chip soldered in that surely isnt a fail ??!

[cabrioman 6]

my ECU ain`t chipped its in immaculate condition!!!!

[oldmandon 1]

Some of these could be interesting although none of them are confirmed yet I don't think !!

2011 VOSA changes to MOT

Still 13 months away until these new regulations come into force' date=' but some interesting changes. From MOT from December 2011, the below changes will come into force, which will be very bad news for some.

HID lights – Specifically those aftermarket kits that give the very bright headlight beams. Any cars found with these kits will be an automatic MOT failure. Testers are able to easily spot the difference between HID kits, and manufacturer fitted Xenon’s. Easy to spot as Xenon cars have suspension level sensors, in car beam adjuster, and usually headlight washers.

Chipped ECU’s - Unsure of just how/if this one will realistically be enforced, but any cars with chipped ECU’s will in theory be an MOT failure. I can only assume VOSA have found an easy way of checking ECU software through the cars OBD port (diagnostic plug).

Wiring harness – The general condition of he wiring harness will be checked to make sure there is no rubbing or chaffing, and that the harnesses are in generally good condition. If unsecure, or damaged again MOT failure.

Airbag warning lights - If any warning lights are illuminated, it will again be an MOT failure.

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Rang my mot tester mate to ask about this, He had the relevant paperwork infront of him. He said at the moment it's in proposal stage, not confirmed but probably will be. I asked about the ecu, he said they can't test at the mo, but they may have a way in the future, but it would mean the garage having cables to fit diferent makes of car. The wiring harness is already checked, but only as advisery, his words were they are usually in a plastic sleeve anyway so shouldn't be a problem.

[craggsy 91]

It'll go the way of the TUV soon then. Will need to get VOSA to check and validate all mods to any car. When that day comes I will just buy a "out of the box" quick car...M3 or M5

[craggsy 91]

Oh and ""chiping"" can mean anything, can tell em its to sort out the emissions and fuellingerrors from the factory map

[oldmandon 1]

It'll go the way of the TUV soon then. Will need to get VOSA to check and validate all mods to any car. When that day comes I will just buy a "out of the box" quick car...M3 or M5

OI This is a respectable forum, would you mind keeping the language clean.....I must say.....it's aweful, M3 or M5 indeed makes me shudder............................................If you must get a different car get a lambo or summat sensible, just keep it clean.....................

[cabrioman 6]

It'll go the way of the TUV soon then. Will need to get VOSA to check and validate all mods to any car. When that day comes I will just buy a "out of the box" quick car...M3 or M5

with you on that bud .......

[craggsy 91]

Oh id love something exotic but dont own a garage so cant leave a car like that on the drive.....BMW are common as foooook so able to. Just like I can leave the R32 on the drive

[b19drg 0]

Interesting stuff aint it glad It don't affect me

thought you were planning on going F/I ?? with the hids it will just be another case of swapping them in and out for mot time - wiring harness is sensible so is airbag and I cant see how they will do the ECU check !!

Oh yeah forgot about that !!

[oldmandon 1]

Interesting stuff aint it glad It don't affect me

thought you were planning on going F/I ?? with the hids it will just be another case of swapping them in and out for mot time - wiring harness is sensible so is airbag and I cant see how they will do the ECU check !!

Oh yeah forgot about that !!

Are you loving your car again then??????????????????lol

[Dave_ciw 507]

It'll go the way of the TUV soon then. Will need to get VOSA to check and validate all mods to any car. When that day comes I will just buy a "out of the box" quick car...M3 or M5

with you on that bud .......

Thats it I couldn't agree more a type of VIC test on your mods having a traders insurance policy helps but this will be an easy excuse to squeeze more money out of us and the VR6 takes enough just to run the thing

[b19drg 0]

Interesting stuff aint it glad It don't affect me

thought you were planning on going F/I ?? with the hids it will just be another case of swapping them in and out for mot time - wiring harness is sensible so is airbag and I cant see how they will do the ECU check !!

Oh yeah forgot about that !!

Are you loving your car again then??????????????????lol

no not at the mo, it needs love and aint got enough to give it until i get new coilies

[oldmandon 1]

Interesting stuff aint it glad It don't affect me

thought you were planning on going F/I ?? with the hids it will just be another case of swapping them in and out for mot time - wiring harness is sensible so is airbag and I cant see how they will do the ECU check !!

Oh yeah forgot about that !!

Are you loving your car again then??????????????????lol

no not at the mo' date=' it needs love and aint got enough to give it until i get new coilies

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Xmas is coming and the goose is getting fat...and all that.......some subtle hints like a Koni catalogue or AP brochure in the home and garden magazine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you never know what Santa wil bring you!!!!!!!!!!!

[b19drg 0]

lets hope they find there way !

[CALICO 130]

easy solution cut off the obd plug lol

how many more people will be going to the mk2 then

[thegoth 5]

Airbag warning lights - If any warning lights are illuminated' date=' it will again be an MOT failure.

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not keen on that :-( will have to get the ABS fixed ;-)

[ashmk3 0]

But I thought a mot was to make sure that your car was road worthy, safe, in a usable condition. I fail to see how chipping the ecu if done properly makes the car unsafe so to speak. As for the hid kits tho i hate those things some people have them so bright so I can see where there coming from with that.

The wiring harness how they gonna check a car with a smooth bay? They going to rip it apart just to check some wires.

[oldmandon 1]

easy solution cut off the obd plug lol

how many more people will be going to the mk2 then

If I could afford a Shiney Black 3 dr Mk2 with the VR engine and power steering I'd have one tomorrow

[CALICO 130]

most modern cars with standard HID's are just as bad for glare as aftermarket kits as long as they are adjusted correctly there shouldnt be a problem

[jimmyb 2]

Interesting stuff aint it glad It don't affect me

thought you were planning on going F/I ?? with the hids it will just be another case of swapping them in and out for mot time - wiring harness is sensible so is airbag and I cant see how they will do the ECU check !!

well some people will have to get a spare standard ecu and again plug that in come mot time lol

[russj249 2]

well with a bit of luck.. when i'm 21 next september, i'll be going for my mot licence! my boss is putting me through it so everybody can just bring them to me

have to say though we haven't had any special notices on our system at work yet about any of this. i can't see how they can do it anyway. i mean they want to go into that much depth with ecu's, but we're not supposed to poke holes in sills or floors etc to check for rust!!

abs light on is a failure anyway at the moment, and can understand about airbag, but it doesn't take long to check a light so fair enough.

also we have cars all of the time that go straight through emissions tests with warning lights on.

i don't think that they will personally, and if they are, maybe they should do something about their servers etc first as the communication problems with vosa are terrible. the new computers just supplied by ibm are terribly slow, always crash and overheat and pack up (we're on our 3rd one in 10 months)