Silverback 0 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 If you get a aftermarket standalone ecu i know you can have different maps, i.e. Low boost, high boost etc, but is it possible to have one map purely for fuel economy? Is there anything else i can do to improve it? Other than remove the turbo.. Lol Link to post Share on other sites
pops 1 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 a turbo if driven carefully should give better MPG, i had a 355bhp 20vt mk2 on standard management with 440 injectors that gave better mpg than my standard 180bhp a3, i can`t say wot stand alone management would do for MPG depends on wot sensors it uses, on the other hand if you want 400bhp expect it to drink petrol, my mk2 vr6t can use 30litres in 10mins and fueling is spot on Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Will 0 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 if your worried about fuel economy get a diesel Link to post Share on other sites
xyber 1 Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 if your worried about fuel economy get a dieselhahahaha dont turbo a VR either Link to post Share on other sites
Bobtrude 0 Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Mine is ok in city, and ok on highway. _Just a tad more than without turbo. Link to post Share on other sites
Phat VR6 3 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Mine is ok in city' date=' and ok on highway. _Just a tad more than without turbo. [/quote']Whats that then.. Just driving it before the turbo kicks in? Link to post Share on other sites
Bobtrude 0 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 thats right. but driviing with boost isnt the same as stock;). Link to post Share on other sites
Bobtrude 0 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 But its also much stronger than stock when not boosting. . . . . . When are u going to turbo yours? Look forward too it!!!! Its Great. Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Pete 1,455 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 LOL. I love these threads...Why buy a VR6, and then turbo it and worry about MPG? Take the turbo off, sell the car and buy something else if you want a more economical car. Link to post Share on other sites
goonersteve 0 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 ^^^^^^^ as the man says, i don't get it?! It's like going on holiday to Jamaica and asking for the area where its coolest temperature!! Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 If you get a aftermarket standalone ecu i know you can have different maps' date=' i.e. Low boost, high boost etc, but is it possible to have one map purely for fuel economy? Is there anything else i can do to improve it? Other than remove the turbo.. Lol [/quote']TBH, you don't need 2 maps if the off boost fuelling is setup properly. With a standalone, you can of course make the off boost areas in the map as lean as you like, but that can often lead to poor performance, in which case a standalone will be of no benefit to you.As the others have said, accept the sacrifice in economy and enjoy the car :-) Link to post Share on other sites
e12_mat 0 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 I dont think there is anything wrong with having a fast daily driver that can still get good mpg. My mk2 20v can go fast when needs be but on a long motorway journey it still gets more mpg then my old 8v did. Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Pete 1,455 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 bit of a difference when you have a 2.8 litre "V6" with a turbo though.. Link to post Share on other sites
e12_mat 0 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 yer, i was talking about the principle. Shame a car cant be fast and good on fuel. :-) Link to post Share on other sites
Bobtrude 0 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Its good to know how much its gonna use anyway IMO. I wondered about this aswell. In the end my Vr6T uses just a tad more in citydriving if you stay off boost. BUT if I want to I can empty the tank real fast and practically live at Shell. So if u want good MPG there really isnt a way to acheve this with the vr6, turbo or not. Link to post Share on other sites
antone28 0 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 Ive just turboed my vr6 , and the car is deffinatley more economical on my daily 50 mile trip to work and back. Link to post Share on other sites
Bobtrude 0 Posted April 8, 2008 Report Share Posted April 8, 2008 By the way, is there any way to make the mpg meter in the car "work" for us turbo guys? Link to post Share on other sites
Phat VR6 3 Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 But its also much stronger than stock when not boosting. . . . . . When are u going to turbo yours? Look forward too it!!!! Its Great. When im abit older (21 now) and when got some more cash.. I want one so much tho.. Realy tempted to a loan lol... My problem is self control I know when ive got one ill just keep filling the tank and going into my overdraft. Oh well its getting done anyway. Hopfully this time next year and ill be bolting a turbo in Link to post Share on other sites
Bobtrude 0 Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 I see what u mean with the loan, but I wouldnt recomend it because there is so many unforseen problems that may occur. I had my turbokit on the shelf tor TWO years before i had the money to put it on. . . . . . . That was horrible!. I got mine on when i was 22 so guess thats the magic number:). Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 1.8T's run lambda 1 through the entire rev range and have a far more sophisticated ECU than VR6s do, plus being a small engine with small turbo, is not a fair comparison.VRTs can be economical, just depends how the map is written. I see a lot of VRTs running 10.5 to 11 AFR on boost and open loop. There really is no need to be so rich. Using full closed loop throughout and more sensible AFR targets will definitely help with economy.Due to the compression being lowered, you can throw on a lot of ignition advance off boost to restore throttle response.To get the MPG meter working on the MFA, you would need to recalibrate the computer because it works it out from injector pulse rate. Link to post Share on other sites
Bobtrude 0 Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 who could do such a recalibrationdo you think? VW? Link to post Share on other sites
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