ABS Pump/Brain

[VR6Pete 1,455]

can anyone look this part # up on the parts CD?

1h2 614 217 b

Cheers

Pete

[VRmonster 1]

it comes back as part number unknown on my etka 6.02.

[VRmonster 1]

i have 2 part numbers on the etka. i think these are what your after, the abs control unit

3A0 907 379 B - abs system (abs)

3A0 907 379 C - abs systems with electronic differential locking (edl)

hope this helps

[VR6Pete 1,455]

now, are them part numbers the same for a 1997 VR6?

[VR6Pete 1,455]

and what is 907 379 A? cheers!

[VR6Pete 1,455]

907 379 A looks to be the ECU, however the part # has been revised to a C, does anyone know owt bout this?

[VRmonster 1]

907 379 c is with edl, and 907 379 b is wothout edl. it doesnt list revision a. and yes they are the same for a 97.

[acf8181 0]

what illustration are you people lookin at?

and what part are you after pete?

i thought the late cars had the abs control unit by the servo?

[VRmonster 1]

illustration 927-00

and pete, it does list revision A, i just missed it. whats your vin # and what parts are you after? and ill tell you what the part numbers are for them on your car.

[VR6Pete 1,455]

where is the VIN number located?

I'm after an ABS ECU, but the one ive found is a revision A, need to find out if it's compatable with the ABS pump i have on now as i might have a revsion C ecu on mine.

[acf8181 0]

ok, your chassis no will be on your registration document pete. they only use the later bit of it from I-PB or I-PW (or something like that) on etka.

i've had a look on etka page 927-00 and the illustration is for the early teves 04 braking system (for obd1 cars), though it shows part no's for the later teves 20 system (obd2).

i'm pretty sure yours is a '97 pete, in which case the control module is under the abs pump under the bonnet, not under the rear seats (like '93 on obd1/teves 04 cars) or under the passenger footwall carpet (like '92 obd1 teves 04 cars).

i've also been reading my bentley manual and it says that all vr6's have EDL! in which case, your car needs part no 3A0 907 375A.

[ Edited Sun Jun 20 2004, 08:39PM ]

[ Edited Sun Jun 20 2004, 08:39PM ]

[acf8181 0]

to put it clearly...

image 927-00 shows early obd1 (teves 04) control moduel placing, though the part no's are listed for all years/models (just to be confusing).

image 614-36 shows the obd 2 (teves 20) placing, though the part no's aren't listed. the module is no. 9. the image it says to see for that part no. doesn't actually exist!!!

the part no's for the abs module are as follows....

obd1/edl - 3A0 907 379C (i know this to be true as have checked my car)

ob2/edl - 3A0 907 375A

according to bentley manual all vr6's have edl. so it has to be one of the above as theres no other part no's.

the other part no's on etka are for other models with abs, and not edl such as gti's (i suspect). these are as listed below...

obd1/non-edl - 3A0 907 379B

obd2/non-edl - 3A0 907 375.

[ Edited Sun Jun 20 2004, 08:52PM ]

[ Edited Sun Jun 20 2004, 08:53PM ]

[VRmonster 1]

well mines a 93 on the book and vin# and its in the passenger footwell. so i must be just before the cutoff point for relocation. it does seem as tho all vr's have edl so id go for the # 3A0 907 375 A

[acf8181 0]

yep, according to the bentely, they were in the footwell for '92 cars, and moved to under the rear seat on 1/93. is ours also a dizzy by any chance? (just curious as to whther the two things go hand in hand)

and the bentley clearly says that all vr6 engined cars have edl. it should say on the box (obd1) or the module under the abs pump (obd2), but heres how you can tell if it doesn't...

obd1 - unplug the electric harness connector on the abs pump/servo. if it has 10 pins used on a 15 pin connector it does not have edl. if 14 pins are used on the 15 pin connector it does have edl. the edl also has a larger valve block.

obd2 - separate the control module from the hydraulic unit. if there are 8 valves it does not have edl, if there are 10 valves it does. again, the valve block if also larger when edl is present.

[VRmonster 1]

nice guide. it is dizzy btw, so i guess it was in the same facelift/upgrade. where did you get your bentley btw, and does it go in deapth into engine work? or is it mainly the rest of the car.

[acf8181 0]

sounds like they went from dizzy to coilpack at the same time as moving the abs ecu...makes sense really as both require different loom. sounds like your car is a very late '92.

i got my bentley from amazon for £40 (apparantly they've gone down to £30), there were a couple on ebay recently that went for less...i posted links on here but no one seemed to be interested.

it goes into huge depth about the engine, not so much about everything else, but i use a haynes for bodywork stuff. the two manuals together with an etka disc is all you need i'd say to know how to do anything. is worth remebering that there are a couple of minor differnces between the u.s. and u.k. cars..such as they can check their own fault codes!

[ Edited Mon Jun 21 2004, 06:55PM ]

[ingham 5]

what does edl stand for ?eletric diff lock ?does it lock diff ? or is it abs based

[acf8181 0]

ELECTRONIC DIFFERENTIAL LOCK, yep. it doesn't actually lock the diff, it just applies the brakes to the inside front wheel. so its more like primitive traction control, but feels like a locking diff (though its not!)