Eat this 2 Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 gaz iv got toyo t1s and can bury my foot in 1st (once its in gear obviously) with np at all if u sidestep the clutch and bury the throttle it doesnt matter what tyres ur runnin itl spin lie a bitch b a bit gentle man hehe Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 i suppose its easy to wheelspin if you wanna...i have to remember i am much smoother on the controls than the average person (not meaning to be big headed...many a race instructor has said it tho), so i subconciously avoid wheelspin. Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 il try and launch the vr sometime and see how it feels i reckon itl b nice good tyres+ big weight up front should= good traction Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 you have to have the revs over 4k, and then slip the clutch as much as you dare to get a good start. Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 cheers acf Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 any1 round stoke fancy a traffic light special? Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted June 16, 2004 Report Share Posted June 16, 2004 i should be back up there at some point before xmas (but after sept - girlies at uni up there, on summer hols now tho) Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 which uni? Link to post Share on other sites
eViL 0 Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 I find more bite, less throttle is much better way to launch.I'm running a reasonably powerful VR now and find it's always to much gas that causes wheelspin.For a good start try being right on the biting point with the HANDBRAKE on.Then again.. I'm still working on my starts.. so don't take too much notice! Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 which uni?keele, she drives a mint green polo glx (identical to 16v's) Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 I find more bite' date=' less throttle is much better way to launch.I'm running a reasonably powerful VR now and find it's always to much gas that causes wheelspin.For a good start try being right on the biting point with the HANDBRAKE on.Then again.. I'm still working on my starts.. so don't take too much notice![/quote']never sit on the biting point for long, esecially using lots of rpm...the clutch will die!heres the way i was tought to launch a car by SRS (silverstone race school), but bear in mind it was rwd...as the car stops, bring the clutch up to the biting point till you just feel it then put the pedal about half an ince below it (not at the bottom of its travel as you waste time releasing it then), sit with constant revs at about 5000rpm, focus totally on the red light (the green light does not exist as far as you're concerned), as it goes of release the clutch and feed power in on the limit of wheelspin. any excessive wheelspin reduces accelaration, so learn to work around the traction point and test your revs at start of warm up lap, if you get too much wheelspin use about 500 less at the proper start.the optimum for accelaration is to have the wheels starting to brake traction, but not actually wheelspinning....the most important bit is the last line.rwd is easy tho, as the rear of the car is pushed into the ground on accelaration thus helping grip. fwd is messy to launch, as grip is taken away from the driven wheels the more you accelarate. [ Edited Thu Jun 17 2004, 11:30AM ] Link to post Share on other sites
eViL 0 Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Andrew. I drove 20k miles like that last year. With the charger on. Several Pod Sessions. Race meets ect ect.I changed my clutch recently and guess wot?The clutch I took off (The ORIGINAL clutch) had at least another 100k on it.VR6 Clutches are indestructable (almost). If I can't break one.. no-one will. Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 i bet tubthumped from cgti could! lol Link to post Share on other sites
ingham 5 Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 i bet tubthumped from cgti could! lolthats the bloke that thinks his 16v can piss allover any vr (till he wakes up)a tuned 16v may stay with a vr but it wont last long Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 nah, a 16v thats mildly nodded like his will have a vr6 upto about 100mph, then the vr6 will readress the balance...but who cares really?!i even had an 8v keepin up with me the other night (its far from standard tho)he also goes through a gearbox each month! lol[ Edited Thu Jun 17 2004, 03:57PM ] Link to post Share on other sites
six appeal 53 Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 I have an 8v MK2 and my modded VR, and I think the 8v was quicker up to about 70 ish, then the VR creams it. Now I have the Shrick on though its all together a different matter, think they are evenly matched till 70 ish (VR may have the nod slightly) Think its all down to power to weight and the gearbox ratio's basically. Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 i assume brakin is similar if i brake hard i hav the abs just twitchin tryin to come on but just short seems the quickest way to scrub speed the suspensions helps lots its stops very stable doesnt wander at all Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 i assume brakin is similar if i brake hard i hav the abs just twitchin tryin to come on but just short seems the quickest way to scrub speed the suspensions helps lots its stops very stable doesnt wander at allyeah, usually braking hard but not quite hard enough to have the abs kicking in on the front wheels is the best way to stop quick (if thats what you mean), but sometimes you get the system pushing the pedal slightly when the rears start to lock...no need to keep short of that point. if the rear steps out it'll only go a certain way before the abs scoops it up...usually.the abs on my vr6 is the best sytem i've ever had on one of my own cars...buts its still not perfect, i've had times where i've had to come off the brakes to prevent the car swapping ends! but then i don't brake like the average (sane) human being! worth noting that the system fitted to later cars is better.i do like the wway the system allows a fair degree of lock up though..nothing like a squeel of tyres...my previous car's abs sysstem would allow no wheel lock up, and it was dangerous in the wet and especially on snow as the system backed the brakes off so much that you had no retardation at all! i ended up stopping with only the handbrake when it snowed as the foot brake did nothing (thankfully only snowed once whilst i owned the car), until i got it wrong hit a pavement and took the top off an alloy! (for people info, the car in question was an '00 punto sporting) Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 i had an n reg punto 1.2 no abs and it was LETHAL on the brakes i did several delibrate and a couple of accidental 90degree "handbrake" turns usin only the foot brake it was ridiculously tail happy espescially in the wet it was fun though and yes the car fell to bits they really r crap nice engine though Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 oh, i found the non-abs puntos (both old and new shape) to be really good on the brakes...but i like to steer the car with the brakes! loli can keep hold of the rear end...its understeer that scares the f88k out of me. Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 lol it was easy to steer on the brakes nut was VERY tail happy im glad it died Link to post Share on other sites
acf8181 0 Posted June 18, 2004 Report Share Posted June 18, 2004 my vr6 is like that now!i've worked out why. everyone told me loads of camber made a golf twitchy, but when i had it set the car didn't feel twitchy at all. but the wishbone bushes were worn out. now i've got poly bushes on, all the geometry is stayin where it should, and thus its twitchy. but i'm really startin to love it! you can steer the car on the pedals beutifully now. i'm a 'pedal' driver, as oppose to a 'steering' driver (i.e. i use the pedals to move the car around in corners, and keep the wheel pretty still, a la alain prost/jenson button. other drivers use loads of steering input instaed, a la nigel mansell/felipe massa)[ Edited Fri Jun 18 2004, 10:51PM ] Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted June 19, 2004 Report Share Posted June 19, 2004 i hope ur not puttin mansell in the same bracket as massa lol i know what u mean though i occasionaly hav a play with the back end and my misses says u nearly lost it then cuz i barely steer but go round the corner its a bit of a buz and it scares her bonus lol Link to post Share on other sites
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