Hi, FlySpeck WoW!! THANK YOU for the quick reply, it is very much appreciated, this is doing my head!! What I have tried so far, I have removed and checked the starter motor, including the usual suspect braided solenoid lead. All working OK, replaced it cleaning all earth connections. I have checked as many fuses as I can find and everything appears to work including the alarm (Clifford) I have also tried a new ignition switch. However when I turn the key nothing from the starter or solenoid just silence. If I bridge the starter motor the car starts. I have not checked any relays as I did not