24v engine conversion

[simonvr6 0]

im going to start my 24v conversion at the weekend.ill be running it with my corrado ecu.the wireing shouldnt be too bad.im also gonna make up a hybrid throttle body contraption.or should i go aftermarket ecu? any ideas suggestions appreciated.

[jcorallo 0]

How are you going to control the variable cam timing with the Corrado ECU? ..and the variable inlet manifold ...and all the other gizmos?

If I was doing it, I'd be starting with the 24v ECU + complete engine loom and working backwards.

Mind you, I'm no electronics guru, so thats just the easy way out...

Jules

[ Edited Fri Mar 18 2005, 11:44PM ]

[Devilfish 0]

i think he means a 24 volt conversion... for brighter headlights

[MK2R32 0]

Nice one Devil,

Why not do the same are grant motor sport did with the Red Vento, put throttle bodies on, no problem with the variable intel then, variable cam timing could be incorporated into the aftermarket ECU, Would sound lovely too..

[Eat this 2]

sure would ps y not go for r32 engine theyr vr6 arnt they?

[simonvr6 0]

i aint too fussed at the mo with the cam timing,my mates mk2 24v is running an emerald and the cam/manifold gizmos etc are'nt connected and its still fierce and can push people out the way like we do and its little bit less instantaneous. an oldish guy came to the garage by chance last year and his lhd mk3 24v was controlled by an alfa romeo ecu and the cam/manifold were definately not connected and a few other things etc and it run good.we were impressed..and throttle bodies are nice but too ££££! plus we always like do things that shouldnt really work but do.

[MK2R32 0]

I'd say a 24v engine that isn't using the cam timing and variable manifold would run like a piece of sh*t. Think of the air restrictions the engine would be getting at high revs with only half the inlet manifold opening and the valves not opening fully at high revs. Mmmm...

Your not telling me that an emerald aftermarket ECU that costs acouple of hundred quid that isn't using the VVT and VM makes your car pull like a train, Mmmm something smells round here.

VW in there wisdom haven't spent millions of euro's developing an ECU for somebody to just throw it away.

Even it it did run you'd have to spend loads of money on it getting it rolling roaded. Why??

I'd say save your cash and get someone who knows what there doing to do the conversion properly.

[Joe M 0]

All the vvt is for is economy, if its ignored then the engine will run well, just not as efficiently as it could.

The inlet manifold would make more of a difference, id imagine its set for top end and you would lose a good bit of torque low down, unless you get something like a schrick controller for it.

[simonvr6 0]

why assume i dont know what im doing? how smart and what skills do you have to have to do an engine conversion? why should someone have to be to spend thousands of pounds for someone else to bolt up an engine,run some wires,read a circuit diagram,plug in some plugs,do some bypassing and a few mods.use a soldering iron.maybe abit of custom fabrication.im not saying its piss easy. ive done 9 mk2 vr6 conversions and a few 16v's as a weekend hobby money earner in my spare time for a few years with a few mates. im not paying no god damn tuning company thousands of pounds to do what we can do ourselves .we even done a mk2 van with a 130pd tdi with the mk4 dash and clocks and original vag keys etc. and the mk2 24v has got audi s3 dash and clocks in.and on those 2 conversions we've had to majorly rework the ventilation/heater internals. and im working on a vr turbo at the moment which will be running original ecu.and i know 4 people with 20v's the vvt's not connected they're all running aftermarket ecu's they run fine. theres no fun or enthusiasm when you've got all parts available from the donor car to do a conversion.it just makes things easy and boring.i think ive saved myself plenty of cash!

[ Edited Sat Mar 19 2005, 09:07PM ]

[VRmonster 1]

he he, well said, i could have just thrown a turbo manifold on mine that fits rhd cars, but no i bought myself a manifold for lhd cars, so i had to extensively mod the brakes and remove the servo to get the turbo to fit, and now my car brakes half as hard as it used to even with new discs, pads, and calipers all round. oh wait. that was a shitty stupid idea, i should have just bought the rhd manifold in the first place, then id have made my life a lot less stressful. still though, i wouldnt let a company do it for me. got quoted £500 to swap my vr parts, minus engine into a cabrio. sod that, i can do it myself off axle stands. ha ha.

[Hiten 0]

there's nothing better than building your car yourself, that's the whole point.

i was thinking of getting throttle bodies for my vr but it too much money at least £2000