allsmiles 0 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 came across one of these kits whilst killing some timehttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-JETTA-VR6-2-8L-T3-T4-Turbocharger-Turbo-Kit-/400244286322?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5d306b2372would i be right to think this spells trouble/not worth it at this kind of price? cheers Link to post Share on other sites
kezwaldo 0 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 seen these mate on ebay i was looking at getting one but been told cos they are from usa there a nitemare cos they are suited to left hand drive vr6s dont know how it makes a difference but been told it does!! Link to post Share on other sites
russj249 2 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 As I'm sure everyone will tell you. as it has been covered sooooo many times before... There's a reason my Garrett turbo was £1400 and you can get the whole kit there for half that. Universal, cheap, nasty chinese parts.. google 'chinese turbo fail' and have a look at some pictures! Link to post Share on other sites
Daverse 175 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 As above, buy once, overcompensate, or be buying a new engine Link to post Share on other sites
kezwaldo 0 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 yeah somes ones making a killing selling them does look like cheap tat to me Link to post Share on other sites
russj249 2 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 I have a chinese gt35r copy if you want one brand new for 150 quid.. i only used it to mark up my manifolds and downpipe for welding them up, didn't fancy dropping the real deal by accident! Have a look at some chinese turbo pics and then decide Link to post Share on other sites
kezwaldo 0 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 how easy are these to fit mate???? mite be intrested for that price even if it just lasts 6 months Link to post Share on other sites
kezwaldo 0 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 oh and is that with kit Link to post Share on other sites
russj249 2 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Just a turbo on its own..Have a look through Jim Potters build thread, then you'll see how much work is involved Don't forget you have to sort out things like lower compression, injectors, intercooler, pipework, exhaust, manifolds, downpipe, fueling, remap... The list goes on and on. Link to post Share on other sites
bungy 2 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 seen these mate on ebay i was looking at getting one but been told cos they are from usa there a nitemare cos they are suited to left hand drive vr6s dont know how it makes a difference but been told it does!!Left hand drive cars are orientated differently under the bonnet and so lots of work to modify to fit right hand drive application. Link to post Share on other sites
kezwaldo 0 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 sounds like a super charger is easier Link to post Share on other sites
russj249 2 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Yep.. without a doubt.. low boost is just a bolt on thing.. can even run it with no intercooler etc, Obviously you should change injectors to be safe, and have it professionally remapped.Unless you are mechanically minded, and can use a welder, and have all the equipment for any issues or eventualities, I would be very careful starting a turbo project by yourself. Link to post Share on other sites
bungy 2 Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 Very lucky where we are with lots of talented people to assist and fabricate. I'm sure with planning and fore thought you could make it happen. Link to post Share on other sites
allsmiles 0 Posted March 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 lol you buy it once you buy it twice! knew it was too good to be true Link to post Share on other sites
lumoxs 0 Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 change there nasty turbo for a T28 turbo from a skyline and it's a winner. simple as that really. don't be put off by people saying you need a garrett gt35rsdghsyeodns 223 it's complete bull, i know 3/4 guys now running turbo'd vr's with skyline turbos and seeing 270 - 300bhp and even using skyline injectors.future. Link to post Share on other sites
jims13 6 Posted March 7, 2012 Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 a skyline turbo is to small..the fact it runs and can be done dont mean its right .if your insistent on low boost go with a t3 based turbo , all are good for 300bhp , lower a/r's mean earlier boost, larger ones start later but hold longer .pm me if you want any help .. Link to post Share on other sites
allsmiles 0 Posted March 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2012 i wouldnt mind looking into a low boost bolt on supercharger kit, whats the going rate for one of these? Link to post Share on other sites
jims13 6 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 more than you can afford, if you worried about spending money on suspension Link to post Share on other sites
allsmiles 0 Posted March 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 more than you can afford' date=' if you worried about spending money on suspension [/quote']lol ok......................................... Link to post Share on other sites
jims13 6 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 just being kind.. a supercharger minus ecu is around 1600 quid secondhand.. turbo conversions can be done for the same.. then add on 300-400 for a mapped ecu.. factor in a 25-40% increase in insurance ( anyone who tells you diff is lying ) then you need min of better pads circa £70-90 .. i could list more .my point is this, on the other thread you said you dont want to spend 350-400 quid on shocks and springs.. well lets just say , yes you can do a turbo conversion for around a 1000 pound, but it aint just t he conversion cost it everything else that you wont have thought of until after you start running it. it can get very expensive very quickly. to do it all properly your looking at a conservative 4k turbo and maybe 3k supercharged .. this assumes you start with a good base car with no exsisting engine faults ..lots of people start these but never finish , hence the half done kits you can buy . make sure you A: want to keep the car for a long period and B: can afford the bills it will bring.all said and done a vr6 turbo is a joy to drive , supercharged ones are equally as entertaining .this is my opinion, and as people will tell you , i no NOTHING Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Oh yes the bills will always be slightly higher when you introduce forced induction to a normally aspirated car.But the fun is in driving them properly.I have to agree with Jim on this. It is not just the actual turbo or supercharger install, you have to uprate suspension, brakes, exhaust etc to make a safe relaible car.When i put a rotrex on my old VR6 I had already put bigger brakes on, uprated ARBs, SS exhaust and Koni coilies so my car was ready for it.But after I put it on I then had to change the fuel pump to an uprated one as well....then you really need gauges to check on what s happening in the engine plus boost gauges to check you have no leaks and its pulling right.The list can get very long....but IS worth it.Also its impossible saying that "i'll stay on low boost as that will be fine"......boost IS addictive, i went from a 8psi rotrex'd VR6 to a 1bar R32 turbo to feed my needs, and that is getting mundane now lol Link to post Share on other sites
jims13 6 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 dont get me wrong id have another one tommorow, but as you said craig, its all the other things you just dont think about.. Link to post Share on other sites
allsmiles 0 Posted March 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 thanks guys, i used to have a renault 5 gt turbo back in the day and went down the power route, it made very nice power on the rollers but on the road it was laggy as hell and it was running on standard 13inch wheels so the handling was a bit over the edge lol! so i do know you got to improve the car all roundi was just getting a rough idea of the numbers required thats all, and here is a pic of my old r5! Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 I had one also.....same colour as well. Link to post Share on other sites
allsmiles 0 Posted March 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 and what did you think to it? Link to post Share on other sites
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