super4mo 0 Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Need help and advice as to where I could relocate the induction filter on my charged 4motion.Currently it's sat in front of the right wheel arch, just behind the front bumper about at the level of the plastic grills.As I live in Somerset and the roads are prone to bad flooding (and I don't want to turn it into submarine), I thought it might be best to move it.At the moment I have a cone filter - ideally how short/long would the induction hose need to be? or can anyone recommend a better suited type of induction kit?Would appreciate all help and advice on a possible solution!!Thanks in advanceStuart Link to post Share on other sites
rodney 17 Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 generally it is situated there as it's the best place without any specialist works...... The issue being that the MAF is just before it so really the only option is to route it straight off the charger... and thus you see the issue.. not just the filter to move... if you can relocate the catch can you may be able to engineer it in to the space but... that will mean another flat air filter or the likes... and you are not likely to get heat guards in place...I would need to think about this a bit more but here is a thought...Maf off the charger and run a pipe around the back of the engine bay and into the battery space vacated by locating the battery into the boot...I hope that helps and I am sure someone will pop on with more knowledge on this than me... Link to post Share on other sites
b road blaster 0 Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 not got a clue mate no help i know sorry Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Currently it's sat in front of the right wheel arch' date=' just behind the front bumper about at the level of the plastic grills.As I live in Somerset and the roads are prone to bad flooding (and I don't want to turn it into submarine), I thought it might be best to move it.[/quote']at that height unless your crazy low it wont be an issue mate I wouldnt think - I ran mine on the VR pretty low and like you had to drive through some pretty bad water on some terrible roads and I never had a prob Link to post Share on other sites
super4mo 0 Posted August 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Thanks for the ideas!Does it not matter how long the induction pipe is? I would have thought if it was too long you might not get the right amount of air flow...maybe...i dunno Link to post Share on other sites
super4mo 0 Posted August 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Currently it's sat in front of the right wheel arch' date=' just behind the front bumper about at the level of the plastic grills.As I live in Somerset and the roads are prone to bad flooding (and I don't want to turn it into submarine), I thought it might be best to move it.[/quote']at that height unless your crazy low it wont be an issue mate I wouldnt think - I ran mine on the VR pretty low and like you had to drive through some pretty bad water on some terrible roads and I never had a prob Ahh right. Do you have the full undertray for the car? as mine doesn't have it.Cheers mate Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Currently it's sat in front of the right wheel arch' date=' just behind the front bumper about at the level of the plastic grills.As I live in Somerset and the roads are prone to bad flooding (and I don't want to turn it into submarine), I thought it might be best to move it.[/quote']at that height unless your crazy low it wont be an issue mate I wouldnt think - I ran mine on the VR pretty low and like you had to drive through some pretty bad water on some terrible roads and I never had a prob Ahh right. Do you have the full undertray for the car? as mine doesn't have it.Cheers mateno mate all plastics had been removed - air filter was about 10 -12 inches off the ground - I did have to change it slightly more often than before but as Rod says because of the hassle of moving the maf etc too I didnt think it was worth it Link to post Share on other sites
super4mo 0 Posted August 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 ok cool.What sort of air filter do you have? cone filter or closed induction cold air feed? Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 just running a boggo cone filter mate - would have loved a BMC but defo not enough room for one !! Link to post Share on other sites
adam.pah 0 Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 it should matter how long the induction pipe is but you will get more power if you can keep the air cool so i would use some heat wrap if you relocate to the bat. tray. I've seen a similar conversion on an audi TT where he switch the intake to the other side because it gets a better feed, he used a custom made aluminium pipe . i would suggest that if you do relocate it to the bat. tray u use a feeder hose to get some cold air to it as i'm sure it gets pretty hot under there and there's no real air flow to that area. i'm sure someone on here knows a lot more than me about it but thats my thought on the matter. :-) Link to post Share on other sites
super4mo 0 Posted August 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 it should matter how long the induction pipe is but you will get more power if you can keep the air cool so i would use some heat wrap if you relocate to the bat. tray. I've seen a similar conversion on an audi TT where he switch the intake to the other side because it gets a better feed' date=' he used a custom made aluminium pipe . i would suggest that if you do relocate it to the bat. tray u use a feeder hose to get some cold air to it as i'm sure it gets pretty hot under there and there's no real air flow to that area. i'm sure someone on here knows a lot more than me about it but thats my thought on the matter. :-)[/quote']hi mate is it a big job to move the battery to the boot and any ideas on who would do a custom pipe as i presume they would need the car ?thanks again Link to post Share on other sites
adam.pah 0 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Don't know where he got it done but i will ask a guy at workwho is a TT nut, he may know about it as he has a twin turbo v6 conv. Apart from that, i guess you could check out the TT forums as i think it is a common mod???? Or contact the TT shop (google it), they would know. will speak to my m8 2mo. Link to post Share on other sites
adam.pah 0 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Know nothing about relocating the bat. but wouldn't think it would be too difficult. Just need longer wires! lol!! Link to post Share on other sites
super4mo 0 Posted August 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 ok cool cheers mate will have a gander Link to post Share on other sites
bungy 2 Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 The VF kit comes with the different shaped washer bottle which has been moved to make way for your charger. The washer bottle can be relocated again if need be and run your pipework to where the standard airbox was, but it is a long pipe run. The kit is well thought out and shouldn't need changing / modifying. Link to post Share on other sites
super4mo 0 Posted August 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 The VF kit comes with the different shaped washer bottle which has been moved to make way for your charger. The washer bottle can be relocated again if need be and run your pipework to where the standard airbox was' date=' but it is a long pipe run. The kit is well thought out and shouldn't need changing / modifying. [/quote']hi bungy are you saying i should just leave as is ? Link to post Share on other sites
b road blaster 0 Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 it would seem so mate Link to post Share on other sites
bungy 2 Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 I would leave it as it is. It is a well thought out kit and very popular in the USA. Link to post Share on other sites
b road blaster 0 Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 I would leave it as it is. It is a well thought out kit and very popular in the USA. yeah but we live in the uk lol lol lol and its a bit wetter over here Link to post Share on other sites
super4mo 0 Posted August 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 I would leave it as it is. It is a well thought out kit and very popular in the USA. yeah but we live in the uk lol lol lol and its a bit wetter over here yeah thats my main concern really as it will be my daily driver as the focus is going up for sale Link to post Share on other sites
super4mo 0 Posted August 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 think i neednew inner wheel splash gaurdsas mine are fucked and a full undertray Link to post Share on other sites
bungy 2 Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 With the kit the K&N filter is relocated down lowish on the drivers side but it is still well protected by everything around it and it has a guide / cover around it or has yours been removed? Link to post Share on other sites
super4mo 0 Posted August 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 With the kit the K&N filter is relocated down lowish on the drivers side but it is still well protected by everything around it and it has a guide / cover around it or has yours been removed?Hi bungy i dont think mine ever had one on because its one ove the first conversions in the uk many years ago and that was a later add on i think ,also i dont have the undertray and some t***t has cut the inner wheel arches /splash gaurds so think i need to souce some and see if it helps dont even know what map its running as i heve no peperwork of the conversion as it was in a court case for 2 years and i cant get any info !!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
bungy 2 Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 If it was a kit it will of come with a map. Might be worth checking your ECU to see if it is a standard UK one or not. Vag com can tell if it is modified also. Worth sourcing the additional parts for your car to get it right and also the intake guard replaced. Link to post Share on other sites
super4mo 0 Posted August 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 cool need some one with vagcom then and i cant seem to find any parts maybe have to buy new! thanks for the help as always Link to post Share on other sites
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