john555 0 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 ok well iv sold my v9 charger to amit so i can buy jays rotrex c30-94 setupim still not 100% sure on a few things can anyone give me a few pointersmy compression ration is down to 9.0:1 with a head spaceri have a charger cooler setupand thats about it to be honistcan anyone recommend what the smallest size pully i could run is/ what boost i can runare 440cc injectors the best for this setupdo i need to run a dump valve do i need to run different plugs from my v9 setupwill a 4bar fuel pressure regulator be okare there anythings i should look out for when im fitting this kit Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Fitting is very easy...no need to tap sumps etc. When I was at Storm he says 300cc injectors are ideal fro 6psi pulley but cant hurt having slightly bigger injectors surely. Should be a diverter valve with the kit your buying.I run mine with a rising rate FPR and runs fine.What plugs do you have in at the moment?Storm recommended Bosch F5DPOR and mine ran sooo much better with them in. ALso ive done the spacer plate and metal layed HG on mine Link to post Share on other sites
john555 0 Posted July 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 im not sure what plugs i fitted its the ones the bloke i got it off recommendedi dont think jay has a fuel pressure reg with his kit do you know were i can get a sutible regulator Link to post Share on other sites
mike 6 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Fitting is very easy...no need to tap sumps etc. When I was at Storm he says 300cc injectors are ideal fro 6psi pulley but cant hurt having slightly bigger injectors surely. Should be a diverter valve with the kit your buying.I run mine with a rising rate FPR and runs fine.What plugs do you have in at the moment?Storm recommended Bosch F5DPOR and mine ran sooo much better with them in. ALso ive done the spacer plate and metal layed HG on minecraig can i be a pain and ask if you can write a quick summary of all the parts you added with your charger? and costs? just interested to know how much it would cost me, and if fitting is do-able with me being useless with a spanner... Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 im not sure what plugs i fitted its the ones the bloke i got it off recommendedi dont think jay has a fuel pressure reg with his kit do you know were i can get a sutible regulatorNot sure where you can buy them from mate sorrycraig can i be a pain and ask if you can write a quick summary of all the parts you added with your charger? and costs? just interested to know how much it would cost me' date=' and if fitting is do-able with me being useless with a spanner...[/quote']Right off the top of my head£1700 for charger and pipework and FPR£100 for traction fluid for charger£210 ish for ARP head bolts *£50 Metal headgasket *£100 spacer plate to lower CR *£90 for new spark plugs£110ish for new HT leads£200ish for flowed head *£40 for various gaskets *£200 for wideband lambda sensor and gauge£60 for oil pressure and boost gauges£70 for decat pipe£15 for new belt tensioner.......still owe Jim for that+ oil and filters for a couple of oil changes+ G12++ for various empties That basicly covers it......plus ive changed sump and oil pump and got engine mounts on order. Just been changing everything really as its getting to the point where they need changingThings with a * are not really needed but I wanted to make it fairly solid without going down pistons and conrod route Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Oh and Mike if you aint any good with spanners then I wouldnt try and fit it as depending on your head it may need some taking off of it. Plus you will need acces to an angle grinder or some sort of cutting thing to cut belt tensioner down a bit. Tis all a bit tricky getting belt round all pulleys the correct way. You would need to see it to get what i mean Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Still gotta sort out the write up about it Link to post Share on other sites
mike 6 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 wow thats a huge help so roughly 2.5k plus fitting... thats that idea out then havnt got the funds at the mo...whats the advantage in the flowed head? Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Only went with it as my head was coming off to do HG and thought why not.......will make a bit of difference but lowering CR at same time not 100% what is what but it does pull better Link to post Share on other sites
john555 0 Posted July 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 i didnt realise the head needs grinding can it be done on the car?also do you know what size pullys give you what boost roughlyim gona need to replace the one thats on jays has a 70mm one on itthink im gona have to ring storm for a chat Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 But remember Mike I got a very good deal on the charger. New from Storm and yu are looking at £2k plus vat. What I saved helped me buy other things as I was gonna buy from Storm anyway.Mine had about 100 to 150miles only on it Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_ciw 507 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 im not sure what plugs i fitted its the ones the bloke i got it off recommendedi dont think jay has a fuel pressure reg with his kit do you know were i can get a sutible regulatorNot sure where you can buy them from mate sorrycraig can i be a pain and ask if you can write a quick summary of all the parts you added with your charger? and costs? just interested to know how much it would cost me' date=' and if fitting is do-able with me being useless with a spanner...[/quote']Right off the top of my head£1700 for charger and pipework and FPR£100 for traction fluid for charger£210 ish for ARP head bolts *£50 Metal headgasket *£100 spacer plate to lower CR *£90 for new spark plugs£110ish for new HT leads£200ish for flowed head *£40 for various gaskets *£200 for wideband lambda sensor and gauge£60 for oil pressure and boost gauges£70 for decat pipe£15 for new belt tensioner.......still owe Jim for that+ oil and filters for a couple of oil changes+ G12++ for various empties That basicly covers it......plus ive changed sump and oil pump and got engine mounts on order. Just been changing everything really as its getting to the point where they need changingThings with a * are not really needed but I wanted to make it fairly solid without going down pistons and conrod routeI dont see rising rate regulator in there Craig, What you using a begi or something that does the same job only more cost effective??? Also would it suit a turbo??? Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 I would call em as I emailed CCr in denmark who are main source for them wasnt very clear.If you call em can you put the sizes up here and I will put all the info in safe keeping...prices would be good also iff you can Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Dave the rising rate FPR came with the charger so its in with £1700 Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 i didnt realise the head needs grinding can it be done on the car?also do you know what size pullys give you what boost roughlyim gona need to replace the one thats on jays has a 70mm one on itthink im gona have to ring storm for a chat Yes mate, all depends on the castings on your head. My original head was fine but the new head need a good chunk taking off......tried grinding but took ages so Tony got a hacksaw onto it....lol Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Also realised I dont have enough pics of all the pipework etc so will take some and get a how to guide up Link to post Share on other sites
cabrioman 6 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 i didnt realise the head needs grinding can it be done on the car?also do you know what size pullys give you what boost roughlyim gona need to replace the one thats on jays has a 70mm one on itthink im gona have to ring storm for a chat Yes mate' date=' all depends on the castings on your head. My original head was fine but the new head need a good chunk taking off......tried grinding but took ages so Tony got a hacksaw onto it....lol[/quote']i sure did .... lol ...think obd 1 u need to cut and obd 2 u dont ..... Link to post Share on other sites
john555 0 Posted July 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 ah cool mine obd2 plus it need a little specer fitting to push my v9 across so the belts would line up so fingercrossed it wont need muchi think this is going to take me some time to get all the bits im gona need i hope i can still get it running for next year Link to post Share on other sites
john555 0 Posted July 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 ah also just a quick one im just about to get a exhaust made do you think a 2.5" be to small for this charger i want to go for around 400bhp eventualy should i go for 3" insted Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Easy mate.....i had mine running in 3 days and I took my time making sure I did nothing wrong but still wired MAF wrong...lol.You already have spacer plate to lower CR so you are ready to go mate Link to post Share on other sites
cabrioman 6 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 if ur getttin it custom made go 3" mate i would Link to post Share on other sites
john555 0 Posted July 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 yer its the rest of my car that killing it this is just adding to the challenge, i hope my clutch will take this Link to post Share on other sites
J5KE F 0 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 your best bet is to call Andy or Miles @ storm http://www.stormdevelopments.co.uk/ +44 (0) 118 9810963 they can advise u and point u in the right direction with the who;e project. I could not fault them and at around 500hp from a 3.2 on rotrex can safetly say they know exactly what they are doing Link to post Share on other sites
craggsy 91 Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 We could have a mini meet down there lol Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 ah also just a quick one im just about to get a exhaust made do you think a 2.5" be to small for this charger i want to go for around 400bhp eventualy should i go for 3" insted2.5" is fine. I know of a Rotrex'd VR making 430hp with the same 2.5" exhaust I use. 3" is nice for a turbo, but even then, not essential. 3" saps torque away off boost. Link to post Share on other sites
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