turbos again!

[Earwig 89]

Can it be built up in stages making it cheaper step by step but build up to more power in the long run ?

Say start of with 270-300 for say £1500 or so, then add some more bits to add more BHP or does it not work like that ?

Mark.

[rodney 17]

Earwig,

A lot of manifolds are USA made so therefore Left hookers and do not fit on the engine of a car with the steering wheel on the correct side!

The only bit of advice I can give is buy whilst the dollar is strong! Prices are similar-ish, as long as you are below 280/300BHP and it seems that generally the turbo, is a slightly more in-depth install process (so costs more - unless you do it all by yourself). The s/c is bolt on with a remap (in simplistic terms, as there are other things to think about like Auamist)

There is enough support on here to help you achieve all from both options and there is a group buy under way for the S/c as we speak. I just bought mine and saved a fortune!

Worth reading the thread again as there is quite a lot of advice here and it helped me make my decision. Though your's is based on what you want!

the links for the S/C are

http://www.vr6oc.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?149183.50

http://www.vr6oc.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?136550.20

So you kinda have to decide where you want to go with the whole thing! (Sorry )

Happy reading and good luck with the decission and of course streatching the plastic after Christmas

[IbiVR 0]

Can it be built up in stages making it cheaper step by step but build up to more power in the long run ?

Say start of with 270-300 for say £1500 or so' date=' then add some more bits to add more BHP or does it not work like that ?

Mark.

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To an extent yes you could, although the turbo you would get in a lower power kit wont be suitable for higher boost.

This is alot of the cost of turbo is all the piping - boost pipes, downpipe etc, andf to an extent these are bespoke to the turbo, so you could end up spending £x on pipe that are no good for you stage 2.

You would need to drop compression for anything over 6psi for turbo to be safe - cheapest is with a spacer - although you could do this as a later stage it makes sense to do it first off.

You can definatly build it up and progressivly get more power. It would work out more expensive than doing it all at once, but on the other hand it would spread the cost.

Tom.

[Earwig 89]

All this info is great....

I really can't decide between them at the moment.

I always wanted a supercharger and as Turbo's were always alot more pricey I never really gave them any thought, but having seen the prices come down it's kinda made me look at it again....

To be fair though it seems that a Turbo is only going to be the same kind of price or cheaper as a supercharger if ou are looking at the same kind of power.....Now if the whole point of a Turbo of supercharger is the EXTRA power that is on tap through boost etc if it should be needed.

BUT.....

If you are to use this extra power then you also need to start looking at other work elswhere such as lowering compression and adding Intercoolers new pipework etc.... Which is where the cost rises.... :-)

I think I would be happy with 280-300BHP for which I think a Turbo would be wasted on a VR ?

Would you guys agree that for that kind of power figure a S/C is very much the better option... ?

Sadly I can't see myself affording building a 350-450BHP monstor as I am moving into a new house in a few months and I doubt I wil be able to put it all together money-wise.

Mark.

[jon@vagworx 0]

All this info is great....

I really can't decide between them at the moment.

I always wanted a supercharger and as Turbo's were always alot more pricey I never really gave them any thought' date=' but having seen the prices come down it's kinda made me look at it again....

To be fair though it seems that a Turbo is only going to be the same kind of price or cheaper as a supercharger if ou are looking at the same kind of power.....Now if the whole point of a Turbo of supercharger is the EXTRA power that is on tap through boost etc if it should be needed.

BUT.....

If you are to use this extra power then you also need to start looking at other work elswhere such as lowering compression and adding Intercoolers new pipework etc.... Which is where the cost rises.... :-)

I think I would be happy with 280-300BHP for which I think a Turbo would be wasted on a VR ?

Would you guys agree that for that kind of power figure a S/C is very much the better option... ?

Sadly I can't see myself affording building a 350-450BHP monstor as I am moving into a new house in a few months and I doubt I wil be able to put it all together money-wise.

Mark.

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Mark, imo what you say is spot on.

If you want up to 300fly hp, then its defo more cost effective to go charger.

Also imo, don't even think about turbos unless you have a fair bit of mechanical knowledge, unless youve got deep pockets. Whereas with a charger they are a setup and forget about method of fi.

I'm sure in due course this will all change, as with everything, its a fairly new thing over here at the moment, but prices will drop as they get more common.

Just think how much chargers were a few years ago

I'f you want to see quite how much work building a vrt can be, keep an eye on here - http://www.edition38.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=69431 :-#

[IbiVR 0]

Yep i'd agree with that too. for sub 300hp the cheaper/easier way to do it at the moment is SC.

If you can, try and get a drive in a SC and turbo car. Just to make sure you know what your getting and that you will be happy with it.

Tom.

[Earwig 89]

Well deep pockets is something I certainly don't have, mechanical knwledge is ok but not to the extent needed :-)

I think it will be a charger for me and see how things go. I can always get a bit of money back for the charger if I decide to go Turbo at a later date.

I don't want silly power but I do want just that little bit more.....hehe.

Thanks for all the info !

Mark.