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  1. No worries, the part numbers are TB0580 and TB0581 if you ever changed your mind and only came to around £24 when I got them back then.

     

    Just get some rolled / rounded edge jubilee clips unless you have a brand new spring clips as they never go back on properly and more than likely will leak. 

     

    If you've had crack pipe off etc… then first fill your engine with just water and check for leaks before putting coolant in - all too often you see leaks where the block has not been cleaned up properly :) 

     

    Cheers.

     

    P

  2. 29 minutes ago, Vwmk3vr6 said:

    I get this and have done and been through all of it over this the last six months .

    THE ONE THING NOBODY WILL TELL ME IS HOW DOES THERE VR ACT??? OR 

    iS THIS NORMAL ??

    Since thr vr6 runs hot and the stage one comes on at around 197 and the car runs inbetween stage 1 and 2 then 1 would always be on.


    I think it depends on many factors to be honest. 
     

    like health of your water pump, coolant system, health of sensors etc..
     

    I always found my VR6 mostly would be stage one / stage 2 after giving it a bit of welly also had a new radiator fitted too (copper core).
     

    My oil temps were quite high too and then I got a new oil cooler and temps dropped by 20 degrees!

  3. Stage 1

    Controlled by the temp sender in the rad, directly to the fans

    Switch On: 92-97 C (198-207 F)

    Switch Off: 84-91 C (183-196 F)

     

    Stage 2

    Controlled by the temp sender in the rad, combined with info from the yellow temp sender via the fan controller

    Switch On: 99-105 C (210-221 F)

    Switch Off: 91-98 C (196-208 F)

     

    Stage 3

    Controlled by the black coolant temp sender, via the fan controller

    Not listed in the guide above, but it kicks in at around 110-115 C.

    For non-AC cars, stage 3 should never come on under normal conditions, if it does, you have a problem.

     

    Temp senders

    The coolant warning light is actually a level sensor (those 2 metal spikes in the header tank are what the plug is for and measure yes/no on coolant level). There is no over-temp warning other than the gauge going up/big cloud of steam coming out of the engine bay :lol:

     

    The main fan control temp sender is screwed into the radiator. This is a 3-pin brass jobber and has 2 different pin layouts depending on if you have early/late VR. It looks like early ones are all 3 pins in a row, late ones are 3 pins in a triangle shape.

     

    One pin (not sure what colour, probably brown) is earth.

     

    Pin 2 (thick red) is stage 1 output and is full-current to the fan. It has the following switching temps:

    Switch On: 92-97 C (198-207 F) - officially rated at 95 C

    Switch Off: 84-91 C (183-196 F) - officially rated at 84 C

     

    Pin 3 (thin red/black) is stage 2 relay-switched output, which has the following switching temps:

    Switch On: 99-105 C (210-221 F) - officially rated at 102 C

    Switch Off: 91-98 C (196-208 F) - officially rated at 91 C

     

    There are also holes for another 3 temp senders in the thermostat housing. There will be 2 or 3 senders plugged into them as thusly (from left to right looking at the front of the engine):

     

    Yellow, 4-pin plug. VAG part number 701 919 369 D(about £20, plus O-ring N 903 168 02)

    Coolant gauge, fan control unit and aux water pump (always there)

    Switches on: 101-107 C (214-225 F)

    Switches off: 94-100 C (201-212 F)

     

    Blue, 2-pin plug. VAG part number 025 906 041 A (about £8, plus O-ring N 903 168 02)

    ECU (always there)

     

    Black or brown

    Black, 2-pin plug. VAG part number 357 919 369 F (about £6, plus O-ring N 903 168 02)

    For a late-spec 3 stage fan control (or auto gearbox for some reason) and switches on at approx. 112 C

     

    Brown, 4-pin plug. VAG part number 357 919 369 E (about £8, plus O-ring N 903 168 02)

    Only if you have AC. This is (apparently) a 3-stage sender (i.e. you get 5 stages in total! :lol: ) - VAG part number 357 919 369 E

    Don't quite understand the numbers in ETKA for this, but needless to stay, the first of the stages also switches on at 112C

  4. 1 hour ago, Motorworks said:

    Any suggestions where l can get a window mechanism for VR6?

     

    They are not specific to the VR6 - But I guess you are talking golf, right? generally breakers would be your best bet, or stick something up in the wanted forum section 

  5. We switched to subscription based model nearly 2 years ago due to dropping membership numbers and to preserve the website and its information - being online for 18 years + now. 

     

    Things are slower these days and Facebook has pretty much taken over on most part our group has over 19k members and our fan page has more than 32k followers. 

     

    We are currently crowd-funding to help get things off the ground again as we need investment on our platform to be able to re-launch club membership welcome packs etc… however I am currently on my own here and no one seems to be willing to help.

     

    The success of any club is of course behind those people who have put in the effort, so if you would like to help then please let me know ! 

     

    Pete 

     

     

     

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