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oooh i wouldnt recomend putting a 195 on an 8j wide rim! the 205 on mine just stretches enough! and you lose out big on handling with over stretched tyres and it knocks the bolox out the centres, my mate bought dave morden (from club gti) old g60 and that had 195`s on 9j bbs rs`s & it wouldnt go round a corner in the wet! it was ok ish in the dry, but no normal tyre companys would fit the tyres when they wore out as they said it was dangerous!

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he hasnt got a life insurance on you has he? :P seriously though they look good stretched on but they even look unsafe! 205`s you can still go lower if they are on 8x 16`s, i got my 205 40 17`s T1S`s for 52 + german tax from mytyres free delivery 16`s will be cheaper still i would think, toyos stretch really well and still sit nice on a wide rim, grip well for the money too!! !amazed

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