polo_vr6 0 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 hi guys i have put a vr6 in my polo and its now on its second engine due to a chain guide snapping and killing itself! i got a lower mileage cleaner engine i have been building up over the past 3 months and its all wired up and it just will not start! the starter is clicking but there is plenty of juice to turn it over but i have noticed that the clocks are reseting so i checked the earths cleaned them all and tryed using a jump lead to check the earth on the engine and the starter and it still just clicks and resets the clocks any ideas? cheers Ash Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 is the main wiring loom connector pushed in tightly and connected properly mate ? Link to post Share on other sites
polo_vr6 0 Posted February 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 yeh its nice and tight and clean mate Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 immobiliser ? although not sure why that would cause the clocks to reset ! certainly sounds like an earth prob but you say you have already checked them all. Link to post Share on other sites
polo_vr6 0 Posted February 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 there is no alarm or immobiliser installed at the moment due to wanting to get it working before adding it in, i am convinced its a earth problem but all i have done is remove the old engine and taken the gearbox off and fitted the engine loom from the old engine to the new one so maybe a wire has split and earthing out on something? (i am running a obd1 golf vr6 engine with a coilpack) Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 so u have removed the factory fitted imobiliser too then mate ? Link to post Share on other sites
cabrioman 6 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 pretty sure TG had this fault at bretts RR day and tunred out to be the earth from the ecu !!?? Link to post Share on other sites
polo_vr6 0 Posted February 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 yeh they are not wired up yet but are 100% not engaged Link to post Share on other sites
polo_vr6 0 Posted February 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 pretty sure TG had this fault at bretts RR day and tunred out to be the earth from the ecu !!?? how did he over come this? it did yesterday turn over for about 1 second but had no luck since i would bump start it but if the clocks are resetting then dont want to force it to start Link to post Share on other sites
cabrioman 6 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 think he removed the battey and it was one of the earths under there .... or it was broken between the ecu plug and the earth point Link to post Share on other sites
polo_vr6 0 Posted February 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 ok mate will have another look but have not touched any of that since doing the conversion i cant really describe where my earth cables are so i will get some pics up 2moz Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 yeah Nige's problem was the earth under the battery tray. Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 yeh they are not wired up yet but are 100% not engagedah ok cool just sounds very familiar to a prob I had with mine when the ECU wouldn't recognise the key reader coil and the car would turn over occasionaly, start once in a while for a second or two and then die again. Link to post Share on other sites
J5KE F 0 Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 My conversion problem was it would fire up and cut out almost instantly.. Turned out to be immobiliser defeat.. ;-) Link to post Share on other sites
Phat VR6 3 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 yeah plug it in dude.the only way you can disable the factory immobiliser is to disable it though vag.comsimply leaving it disconnected means that its still doing its job and stopping it from starting your engine Link to post Share on other sites
polo_vr6 0 Posted February 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 tryed it mate still no difference i think im going to take out the engine and check the engine loom as i think it may of got damaged putting it back in Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 the only way you can disable the factory immobiliser is to disable it though vag.comyou cannot disable the factory immobiliser with vagcom mate the code has to be removed from the ECU. Link to post Share on other sites
Phat VR6 3 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 the only way you can disable the factory immobiliser is to disable it though vag.comyou cannot disable the factory immobiliser with vagcom mate the code has to be removed from the ECU.vince did mine... said he disabled it using vag.com *-) Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Seabrook 4 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 yeah Vince can but Joe Bloggs at home with vag-com cannot matey sorry should have stressed that !! Link to post Share on other sites
polo_vr6 0 Posted February 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 hi guys been pon the case all day the earths all seem to be working spot on as i tested with a voltmeter engine did turn for a little bit but i really seems to be struggling the starter is fine as checked it again so i am really really stuck as cant put my finger on why the clocks are resetting when trying to start!? i think im going to tow it up and down the road and bump start it Link to post Share on other sites
legvw 0 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 You haven't got the 2 main power and earth wires the wrong way round? Link to post Share on other sites
Phat VR6 3 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 hi guys been pon the case all day the earths all seem to be working spot on as i tested with a voltmeter engine did turn for a little bit but i really seems to be struggling the starter is fine as checked it again so i am really really stuck as cant put my finger on why the clocks are resetting when trying to start!? i think im going to tow it up and down the road and bump start ithow long is a little bit? Link to post Share on other sites
polo_vr6 0 Posted February 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 You haven't got the 2 main power and earth wires the wrong way round?im pritty sure they are right Link to post Share on other sites
polo_vr6 0 Posted February 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 hi guys been pon the case all day the earths all seem to be working spot on as i tested with a voltmeter engine did turn for a little bit but i really seems to be struggling the starter is fine as checked it again so i am really really stuck as cant put my finger on why the clocks are resetting when trying to start!? i think im going to tow it up and down the road and bump start ithow long is a little bit? 3 seconds but it was turning very slow Link to post Share on other sites
legvw 0 Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 You haven't got the 2 main power and earth wires the wrong way round?im pritty sure they are rightIt sounds like your engine doesn't want to turn over, have you tried manually turning the crank, with a spanner on the pulley end??I say this because it would create all the symptoms that your describing, click of the s/motor which can't turn the engine and draws too much current, reseting your clocks.Is the s/motor getting hot? Link to post Share on other sites
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