1st proper drive out in my VR6

[numbnuts 0]

Just got back from my 1st blat out in the car. Yep it's fast! Drives nice and handles very well but..... Where is all the power below 3500rpm? There not much at all which is surprising seeing as it's a 2.8 V6. Above 3500 rpm it pulls quite well and the power is progressive which is good. You really have to keep the revs up to keep the power there which is fine on a track but next to useless on the roads unless you want to loose your licence.

So the verdict is pretty disappointed to be honest. For me the power is too far up the rev range. I would have liked it to come in much earlier. Is there anything I can do about this like ECU re-mapping? At the end of the day i would probably prefer a turbo diesel which has the power from the word go which on normal roads for me would be much more fun. I drove a new Golf diesel GT last year which blew me away! The VR6 is no where near as much fun.

hey ho.

[H13VYY 0]

tbh the only way you would get the low down power that your looking for is by going down the FI route.

you have to remember the VR is over 10 years old..therefore comparing it with the golf gt which has something like 240 lbs/ft torque..you will feel that extra pull low down the rev range which the VR doesn't give. So there's no point comparing it with newer cars.

[H13VYY 0]

you should compare the engine sounds instead! it's way more fun

[numbnuts 0]

Yes your right, the deisel GT is a totally different beast and i love low down torque which i thought i would get from a V6 but no, Yes it does sound nice. Probably be up for sale soon after a few more drives out.

[xyber 1]

dont worry, the 60-100 time is faster than a cossie!

To sort the lack of grunt low down I charged and schricked mine, works a treat haha

[Ben Seabrook 4]

You have to remember that the VR was never designed as a hot hatch more a motorway cruiser but saying that 0-60 in about 7 seconds is still pretty quick even by todays standards inmo it's a very rev hungry engine and needs pushing especially at low speeds to get the best out of a standard car. Take it out again and dont change up gears so quick think you might find you have a different car on your hands. Also diesels always feel quicker at lower speeds but trust me from personal experience a diesel GT has nothing on a VR

[numbnuts 0]

i'm revving it to near red line!! It has plenty of power, just in the wrong place i.e above 3500 rpm. I want the power from almost the get go and not high up. It's not the car, it's me. The car is doing everything it should, it's just wrong for me.

[numbnuts 0]

Also diesels always feel quicker at lower speeds but trust me from personal experience a diesel GT has nothing on a VR

The VR may be quicker but the GT just felt SO much better. it put a huge smile on my face and there was shed loads of power from the bottom to near the top at any speed in any gear. it made me feel 17 again and i didn't want to give it back. it may be slower but it was 10 times more fun.

Am i just weird?? LOL

[H13VYY 0]

i was drving my mates audi a4 tdi sportline yday..it has140bhp with 236 lbs/ft torque..which is the same power as the golf gt you had..yeh it has a lovely drive, low down power, comfort but it's no where near as fun as the VR. Older cars are way more fun..newer cars are just more comfortable, economical and mature so to speak.

The VR should make you feel 17 again not the Golf GT!

[H13VYY 0]

dont worry' date=' the 60-100 time is faster than a cossie!

To sort the lack of grunt low down I charged and schricked mine, works a treat haha

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didn't know it was that fast! which cossie are we talking about?

[numbnuts 0]

Well i must be backward then LOL The VR makes me feel pretty numb.

[xyber 1]

Have you driven a VR before? They are funny things, one £7 sensor fails and they run well off their 100% but unless you knew different you'd just think they arent all they are cracked up to be

[numbnuts 0]

No, not driven one before but plenty of Golf's.

It's not the car, it's me. The VR is wrong for me.

[H13VYY 0]

lolll you seem to have given up fairly quickly. didnt you buy the VR recently?

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dont worry' date=' the 60-100 time is faster than a cossie!

To sort the lack of grunt low down I charged and schricked mine, works a treat haha

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didn't know it was that fast! which cossie are we talking about?

60-100 mph a stock vr6 (obd1 too!) was proven to be a smidge quicker than an escort cossie no shit

if you prefer the gt mate thats fine its personal taste at the end of the day. a schrick manifold makes a HUGE diffrence to midrange torque vw developed the car with it (called the vsr) then took it off cuz it cost too much lol they then sold the design to schrick who make them theyr called schrick vgi i had 1 on mine ages ago it made 230 lb ft!!! but ultimately fi is the way to go as the sky really is the limit

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ps i see youv got 17"s on it try a set of 15"s youll be amazed by the diffrence

[tubby 0]

Try driving a vr6 then jump intoa 4 motion the 4-motion is a great car for handling ,but nothing else . That is a numb drive,but a vr no fooking way.

[mike 6]

mines great around town, grany shifting lol,plenty of low down power in mine :S unles you want mega torque ?

why didnt yu test drive it???

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Try driving a vr6 then jump intoa 4 motion the 4-motion is a great car for handling ' date='but nothing else . That is a numb drive,but a vr no fooking way.

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i agree mate i class the 4mo as a good car but the vr is just special theres just somethin about it even the r32 isnt the same (the r32 is basically a slightly faster better handling 4mo with horrific throttle response)

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Try driving a vr6 then jump intoa 4 motion the 4-motion is a great car for handling ' date='but nothing else . That is a numb drive,but a vr no fooking way.

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i agree mate i class the 4mo as a good car but the vr is just special theres just somethin about it even the r32 isnt the same (the r32 is basically a slightly faster better handling 4mo with horrific throttle response)

you on about the mk4 r32?

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sry yeh mate

[H13VYY 0]

is it really..i thought the r32 being more of a racing car than VR would have if anything..a better throttle response. I was thinknig about getting one next year.

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dont get me wrong theyr a better car than the vr iv got both lol im sellin the vr to supercharge the r32 475-490 hp when its done

but it just isnt as special as the vr6 it doesnt sound as good for a start

regarding the throttle response vw deliberatly made it incredibly twitchy to give the illusion of immense power ie 2% throttle = about 90% power its hideous imho the only good thing about it is heel and toe (i turn my feet outwards not inwards like everybody else does) is fantastic with it bein so twitchy but for driving normally its horrible sooooo easy to kangaroo down the road

[VR6MANN 0]

i'm in love with my vr6.i have never driven anything like it,and have driven st24 gti and many others.the vr6 is great it makes me feel like a kid.

[xyber 1]

surely the throttle on the R32 can be toned down abit a remap time?