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no im not looking for silly wide rims, my mates just put some 9.5 x 16 put on his vr with 30mm springs only, and he cant drive it it with anyone in the back. im putting on f.k. coilovers, with probably about a 30 mm drop, coz of all the speed humps where i live, but my cars a daily driver and i didnt want to sacrifice and handling or torque by using adapters, so i should be fine, thanks for the advice.

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Anything 8 and over with 17's you will need your arches rolled. Over 8.5's you will need your arches pulled. My new 8.5's fit perfectly but I have had my arches completely rolled back on themselves.

11x18's as Justin says, I reckon it'd probably be best if you cut your arches off!!! lol

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