matth76 1 Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 HiDoes anybody have a pic of their engine bay with a BMC CDA induction kit fitted with or without cold air feed? What I want to know is does it look out of place, or actually make the engine bay look more 'professional'? I am thinking about getting one and utilizing the standard cold air feed that the normal air filter uses, to avoid sucking in hot air. Also how will my car be after fitting one, performance wise/drivebility and is there an increase in sound at all?Also is it possible to get a chrome or silver cover to replace the standard part on the top of my actual engine (the part which has the writing on it saying "2.8 VR6" etc)? The cover seems to be clipped in and potentially easy to remove with just a couple of screws...although it seems to make a "velcro" sounding noise when I try to move it a bit. What is this noise? Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Have a look here and let me know what you think:http://www.vr6oc.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?84513 Link to post Share on other sites
Col_M 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 one without the cold air feed because i'm lazy not that you can see it anyway Link to post Share on other sites
jezmoz 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 exactly the same problems as me there craig, the pipes are a right bastard to get off the cannister, especially the black one!! and that halfords ducting is complete wank, might as well have used some paper, it tore that easy. The only difference with mine and yours is i put the tubing along back of the grill , there's some clips there that hold it nicely in place , as well as a few tie wraps to hold it in place, dunno about you but i couldn't get the carbon cannister carriage screw back in so i again used a tie wrap to secure it. I left my cold air feed behind the bumper grill, heard stories of them sucking in leaves and stuff, i'm easily paranoid though! Link to post Share on other sites
coullstar 2 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I just removed my cannister altogether, blocked one pipe and put the other down into the wing. No probs at all and that was 3 months ago. I dont think you really need to relocate it. Link to post Share on other sites
Pittuf 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 I had my system apart at the weekend.I had removed the carbon cannister and just had the two pipes tucked into the inner wing, they are now clipped back into thier clips and are tie wrapped at the end.I had the cold air feed just hanging down at the bottom of the splitter sort of horizontal with the splitter, you could actually see the bottom of it if you looked at the front of the car.I repositioned it to sit behind the holes cut in the grill where the air temp sensor is. I have found it to be alittle bit more responsive since doing this, not a huge amount, but definately better. I would say that had I done this straight away then the difference between the bmc and the std filter would have been quite alot. I certainly ised to notice the difference when the cold air feed fell off the back of the filter!Getting the air feed to sit here was quite a task. I had to take out the horn that sits there, rotate the arm that it sits on and also rfit it back in at a different angle. It was then a case of deforming the tube to fit throught the small gap and get it pointing the right way, a struggle but worth it imo.As far as your concerns though Jez, I did find a leaf and lots of grass in the filter when I took it apart. I would expect there to be much less now that it isn't hanging down near the road and is pointing out the front with the grill acting as a further filter point. Link to post Share on other sites
matth76 1 Posted October 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Is it fairly easy to use the standard cold air feed of the normal air filter box without the removal of the carbon cannistor? I don't have air con or anything like that to get in the way. Also does it stay stable and not rock around or anything - or do custom brackets have to be fitted to hold it all stable to prevent it swaying around in the engine bay?The engine bay looks very nice with the bmc fitted... makes it look much better than the standard air filter box. Link to post Share on other sites
Pittuf 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Am I missing something, the normal air box doesn't have a cold air feed does it??? ?! Mine certainly didn't seem to have one when it was removed. It was just the panel filter housed in the black plastic box, no specific cold air routing as far as i can remember. :? The BMC kit comes with a strip of metal with holes in which you cut to size then bend to 90 degrees. It bolts to the metal circular strap which you can see in the picture above, then you remove one of the bolts on the side of the engine and fit the other end of the bracket in when you refit the bolt. 8) I would suggest going the extra effort and getting the ducting suppled in the kit down to the holes in the front grill next to the air temp sensor.....the whole system seems to work better imo. Also get a big jubilee clip to hold it on as I found that it slipped off quite regularly without it. I also found that when the cold air feed ducting had slipped off the back of the filter housing the car was less responsive, also the sound was slightly different, probably louder, but more strained slightly....difficult to explain really, but there was derfinately a diiference. Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 The OE airbox should have a cold air feed of sorts. The intake is/was in the N/S wing - the idea being that the air comes in from the gap between the N/S headlight and the wing itself.In other words, not very good! Link to post Share on other sites
matth76 1 Posted October 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Agreed not very good at all...but much better for the BMC than without any cold air feed at all drawing in the hot air from the engine. Link to post Share on other sites
Pittuf 0 Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 I see, I couldn't remember where the holes were in the black housing, are they on the bottom or on the side, nearest the wing? Either way though not that great as you say.I still think you would be better to use the supplied ducting and get the cold air feed from the bottom of the bumper behind the holes in the grill. From experience it works much better with the stonger/colder air flow. Link to post Share on other sites
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