russj249 2 Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 I've been looking on this website I came across. Seems really good value, lots of stuffhttp://www.turbodynamics.co.uk/shop/wastegates-spares-wastegates-c-987_1293_1192.htmlThey have the Tial F38 for sale a few quid cheaper than on GT3Turbo, but I couldn't help notice that the Turbosmart 38 equivalent is more expensive than Tial.What's your views on this? And is the Turbosmart a rival for Tial? Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Yeah good site that. Borg Warner EFR turbos coming soon too. I'd better hide my credit card!!Turbosmart and TIAL are much of a muchness. Very similar quality. Personally speaking, TIAL products have been 100% reliable for me over many 1000s of miles, so I won't use anything else. Link to post Share on other sites
russj249 2 Posted February 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 But what if you could get a bargain on a turbosmart one? loland yes a very good site. i'm glad a found it actually. Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 LOL, I don't build things to a price mate :-) I build with the best, or not at all ;-) Link to post Share on other sites
russj249 2 Posted February 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 good point Kev. I know they have the reputation, but surely there's got to be a reason why their £265 with the VAT and the Tial's are £191 with the VAT off here, any cheap ones are like £100 or under.I might give it a go, there seems to be a lot used when searching google. Only thing is at the moment it's set to 1bar, with 2 springs.Out of this list http://www.turbodynamics.co.uk/shop/spring-for-turbosmart-ultragate-38-hypergate-45-wastegates-p-3011.htmlWhich ones would I need to get it to open at 7psi? I get a bit confused with the inner middle and outer spring bit.You fancying a Borg Warner then Kev? Link to post Share on other sites
legvw 0 Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 I run 2 of the turbosmart w/gates, i know i havn't done that many miles with them (2000), but they seem excellent.All you'll need to do is remove 1 of the springs in the gate, as they are rated at 7 psi each. Link to post Share on other sites
russj249 2 Posted February 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 I run 2 of the turbosmart w/gates' date=' i know i havn't done that many miles with them (2000), but they seem excellent.All you'll need to do is remove 1 of the springs in the gate, as they are rated at 7 psi each. [/quote']Ah ok, i didn't realise they were just rated 7 each. You think it's best to leave the big spring in, I presume it'll be the strongest and best one out of the 2 to leave in. Link to post Share on other sites
legvw 0 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 Either or mate, just be careful when undoing the bolts! Stick a clamp over the whole w/gate, or put it in a vice because there is quite a bit of energy there! Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted February 8, 2011 Report Share Posted February 8, 2011 /\ Most definitely! I used a pillar drill to take mine apart :-) Same with the Tial dump valves, if you use one. The lid will take your teeth out if it flies apart suddenly! Be VERY careful not to pinch the delicate diaphragm between the two halves of the WG when you reassemble it. It'll cause huge boosting problems if you split it and they're not cheap to replace!Turbosmart v Tial. I can't tell you why one costs more than the other Russ, but they are both very highly regarded. Turbosmart are Australian, and they certainly know a thing or two about high quality tuning products, such as MOTEC ECUs for example. Tial are American, who also know a thing or two about tuning and billet machining :-) Link to post Share on other sites
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