4 mo fail advice required

[warby 0]

Hi, ive been away from here since the 4mo packed in playing with lesser vw's and my current e36 bmw drifter but i want my 4mo back now so...

2000+ miles after i did my timing chains including town, country and motorway driving.

What happened; 140mph yes seriously no BS, missed slightly at approx 6krpm then pulled on fine, went like fook all evening. 2 days later temp gauge went a little over normal then fine. Day after it starts to produce a brown mayo sludge in the expansion bottle, (and still towed my mates Skyline in when it died ha ha ha :-p) no sign of water in the sump, but oil level light is now on even though its full! Still runs fine!!!

What I think; For what is worth, i think its either headgasket or possibly oil cooler / crack pipe in timing case as it was off for me to do chains.

What do you guys think, should i get the head off it or try messing around with the other two options first?

I want to get her back before winter bites bad cos the Bee-em is not winter motoring:)

Been thinking on R32'ing it but there are very limited cost effective units about so ill stick with this engine for now.

Thanks in advance

Nick

[b road blaster 0]

i would say it points towards the head gasket oil into water rather than water into oil

but tbh it could as you say any of the above

sorry no help i know

[thegoth 5]

is the oil light a level indicator in the 4mo? In the MK3s it's an oil pressure warning.

Given the driving style ( God it must be fun living on the Isle of Man ) I'd say HG

[warby 0]

Dude being away from my silky smooth vr for this long anything is good help, ive had so many people on this Island BS me about this that and the other.

I too thought H/G oil to water gallery too as oil is under much more pressure than water thus oil into water.

It got that bad i was going to flush the coolant system and trade it in for a focus st (ssssh):-d but it started to mayo before i got to the Ford stealer...

[warby 0]

Oh yes Goth it has good sides, that was TT week one way mountain section, mountain mile if you know the circuit!:-d

May dive into HG

[b road blaster 0]

not been over to the man for yrs but sure is a nice place and good roads

stick with the 4mo mate as you know the 4x4 makes sence on them roads

[warby 0]

oh yes! its great until you want parts, advice, work dong quick then its a horrible place.

Keeping the 4mo for the reason the BM is, thirsty, set up for drfit, not 4x4 or vr and hopeless in snow / ice especially with its welded diff and massive powwahs:)

Ive mised this place too and its spurred me onto soring th old girl out again..

[b road blaster 0]

fair play mate i just picked up a mk4 astra sri turbo cheap one of the prodrive one limited run of 500 cars its ok but you just can't get the power down just sits there and spins

not driven my 4mo for weeks the daughter is allways out in it nowdays starting to miss it now lol lol lol

[warby 0]

Yeah want it back real bad now, considering going out in the wind and rain to make a start:)

[warby 0]

God im lazy, still not started on it after all the snow we have rain now, but the BM is acting up so need this to get about asap, anyone breaking a mk4 vr / 32 or mk5 32???

[warby 0]

God im lazy, still not started on it after all the snow we have rain now, but the BM is acting up so need this to get about asap, anyone breaking a mk4 vr / 32 or mk5 32???

[bungy 2]

Thought about putting a 12v in it?

[warby 0]

I have been offered a couple locally but im unsure of it and tbh i'd need f/i to make it worth while. I have decided to man the fook up and attack tomorrow, with rad pack off ill check the oil cooler and crack pipe where it attaches to head as i had it off to do chains, if nothing obvious ill pull the head off, oil cooler and such is on the way into the head so see how we go

Ill try do pics and such this time.

Hmmm why did it post up last post twice??:-* my bad

[bungy 2]

12v lumps are cheap or as a whole car and with the rest of the money you could go f/i while it is out.

[warby 0]

It's something to look into, but I want to keep it fairly standard now as it will be my daily for a bit, I'm sick of crunching about with a welded diff and low suspension, though the dub will prob get dropped soon:)

[warby 0]

Got oil cooler off, no leaks. Pulled more bits off, got to top timing cover found the o ring where the water flows through all chewed up. Thinking of just doing a top end refresh though

[b road blaster 0]

she will soon be a happy 4mo again

[warby 0]

Hope so man, headset was £250 trade + vat so I'll get the o ring and risk it me thinks if it does it again straight into hg. Can't do owt till next Tuesday cos of stupid new year

[b road blaster 0]

you knows she's worth it mate lol lol

[warby 0]

Yeah and I would do it but this bastard BMW wants 2 o2 sensors, a maf, a service, an airbag slip ring in steering column and new rad hoses so I'm broke still I rigged up a halogen flood light on the front of the house pointing directly onto the 4 mo for evening work, as this breaking down malarkey seems to be a regular thing with mine

[warby 0]

I have been offered a couple locally but im unsure of it and tbh i'd need f/i to make it worth while. I have decided to man the fook up and attack tomorrow' date=' [b']with rad pack off ill check the oil cooler and crack pipe where it attaches to head as i had it off to do chains, if nothing obvious ill pull the head off, oil cooler and such is on the way into the head so see how we go

Ill try do pics and such this time.

Hmmm why did it post up last post twice??:-* my bad

Bold bit is the chewed o ring, need to load pic to photobucket as I can't get it directly off my iPhone, which I thought I could.

[warby 0]

Top timing cover off.

O ring between timing cover and head where water from crack pipe thing passes through cover.

Before i waste time reassembling where i am is this likely the problem or should i just do HG (i cant really be assed or afford a headset at £250+vat trade from local motorfactor) but if its gotta be then its gotta be.

Also whats best way of getting oily mayo goo from coolng system?

Cheers

Nick

[warby 0]

Finally got my lazy ass round to ordering the bits, I'll keep y'all posted.

Sad news though, due to the bmws thirst for fuel and tyres she's gotta go for something more economical rest assured it will be a VW (fancying a mk5 derv or possibly a gti if I can get a cheap one) just not a vr for now.