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firstly saw minas post selling the car and dont know if its been covered in anymore detail, so here goes.

The name for this type of fraud is the nigerian fraud.

this is totally world wide and if u want to be shocked do a search and see it in all its glory.

what the theivin scumbag is after is the shipping money which will be the balance AFTER you keep your money from the cheque that your bank will clear, what happens is you recieve a fraudulent cheque which your bank generally WILL clear in 4 days. your suspicions will be allayed and they ask you to forward money you think is rightfully theirs to a shipping agent usually via western union, they can access this fromANYWHERE with the password , they use cyber cafe add. so are untraceable a couple of days to 2 weeks later your bank will get round to telling u that the cheque was a forgery or stolen and you will be out by the shipping costs which are around 3 grand ,YOU ARE LIABLE NOT THE BANK even tho they cleared the cheque or took your money to express it. western union have upwards of 2500 cases on their books in britain , but this is worldwide. the fault lies in the time it takes to authenticate a cheques validity which is longer than 4 days , if its stolen or forged a company may not pick it up for a month but you feel secure coz the bank have cleared it.

just to cheer you up contrary to popular belief bankers drafts are NOT secure either coz they may be forged , oh and cash could be counterfeit, good luck people.

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Yes, it's not just the buyer that needs to beware any more.

Always sell to UK buyers only, get them to come to you (if they are a genuine buyer they will want to look at the car before making an offer anyway) and provide ID. Then you should have nothing to worry about from 419 scammers.

Forged bank drafts are more of a problem. Banks are unwilling to verify them over the phone (as I recently found out), so the only way to make sure a draft (or cash, for that matter) is genuine is to go to the bank with the buyer. Trouble is, most buyers aren't willing to do this (as far as they know, you could be planning to bop them over the head and take the money as soon as you leave the bank)

It's a tricky one. Does anyone know of tried and tested solution to this problem?

[ Edited Sun Jan 23 2005, 01:57PM ]

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