Eibach or H&R springs

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So, I've just sold my coilovers to another forum member (hope you enjoy them) and fitted the oem struts back onto the car. Why? Well, the coilovers were great fun but my girlfriend wasn't a fan and they weren't ideal when I needed to take the car along farm tracks to mountain biking locations.

However, the front springs on my oem struts are a little rusty and in need of replacement. I've heard mixed reviews but I was wondering if Eibach springs with the oem shocks might work out as a compromise between the original set up and the coilovers?

Does anyone have any pictures showing the drop you get with Eibachs and what is the handling like? I know it wilnot be as good as the coilovers I had but is it any better than the standard set up? Maybe there is another spring I could consider?

I also noticed that Eibach don't sell a specific VR6 spring. Accorind to the sites I have found, they recommend the same springs for the VR6 as they do for the 1.4CL. Can that be right? Surely the VR6 engine is too heavy?

Any advice gratefully recieved.

ip

[xyber 1]

Ive got Eibach sportline springs, New OE gas shocks, new bushes, bearings and bump stops. Well happy with it, wouldnt want a harder ride, stance is just right and handles nicley

http://www.venommotorsport.com/manufacturer_product.php?manufacturer=Eibach&category=suspension&product=SportlineSprings&make=VW&model=Golf%20Mk%203

[ip 0]

Thanks xyber. I think I'll need to be higher than that! Does anyone have any pics with the pro kit installed?

Also, bit of back ground reading suggests that the H&R springs will be higher and smoother than the Eibachs. Can anyone comment? I know that is getting silly money (£165 for a set of springs with oem dampers) but I'm keen to hear what people think.

Cheers,

ip

[ip 0]

Bump.

Can anybody offer any advice on the Eibach or H&R springs on OEM shocks?

Cheers,

ip

[ip 0]

Anyone heard of/used these:

http://www.venommotorsport.com/manufacturer_product.php?manufacturer=Supersport&category=Suspension&product=LoweringSprings

should be a really subtle drop.

Alternatively, I'm reading good things about the H&R OE sport springs that only lower about 20mm.

Cheers,

ip

[Timah89 1]

H&R springs are great - we have them on VR6 with Bistiens lowered c25mm and on mk2 16v with uprated gas struts - sorry to say you are wasting your time and £s if yo refit with std dampers and bushes etc other than just lowering the car; it will drive awful!!! Spend another £150 - its only 3tanks of gas after all

Cheers

[ip 0]

Thanks for the tip Timah89. Which H&R springs are you using (OE sport or sport) and where did you get a fullset of bilstiens for £150!?

Cheers,

ip

[Timah89 1]

H&R Springs £96 + vat + £10 postage from STEALTH - discuss best spec with Vince and Bilsteins £98 + vat from Euro car parts.

Good luck

[ip 0]

Cheers Timah. I need to know which H&R springs you used as a 25mm drop sounds perfect. H&R do two types:

Sport (approx 30mm drop)

OE Sport (approx 20mm drop)

Do you know which you used?

Thanks,

ip

[ip 0]

Just realised, easy way to tell which you have. What colour are the springs?

Grey = OE Sport

Black = Sport

Cheers,

ip

[Timah89 1]

Pretty sure oure are black so = 30mm lower; very noticeable the front but seems little at rear- prob as rear shocks knackered!

[Phat VR6 3]

hi, this might sound silly but why didn't you just raise the coilovers to your disired height? Also the higher the coilover are the softer they become!

[ip 0]

The FKs seem to run quite low with an actual minimum drop of around 40mm (and they are a firm shock). I'm looking for a really minimal drop (just to fill the front wheel arches a little) and only marginally harder ride than stock shocks. I had them set up proffesionally and they assured me they'd got the best compromise out of them and wouldn't push them any higher. As mine and my girlfriend's only car (she uses it for her work), it just had to be just a little more practical.

Certainly do miss the handling though.......

[Timah89 1]

Pretty sure ours are the BLACK ones - Vince at STEALTH ordered them for us and didn't give us a choice at the time!

Cheers

[ip 0]

Timah, you wouldn't have a pic of the car that you could post would you?

Cheers,

ip

[Timah89 1]

Sorry no pics - we had similar set up on a MK3 GTi 8v with 17" Audi wheels which looked great but the 40profile destroyed the ride; best to stick with std 15" wheels

[ip 0]

Hi Timah. Well, I bit the bullet and bought a set of Boge Turbogas to go with a set of H&R springs (30mm lowering). For good prices and advice proven_products seems to be a good place. The whole kit was still expansive mind. I'll post my conclusions once they are on. I just hope it doesn't end up too low again.

I'm with you on the wheels thing BTW. The original 15" bbs wheels look sweet anyway (though I could be tempted by a set of MK4 25th anniversary wheels which were 16").

Cheers,

ip

[Timah89 1]

Have H&R + Boge Turbogas on our Mk2 16v and they are great for cheap and cheerfull - good luck

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Well, fitted the boge/H&R combos today and intial feeling is that this is a pretty decent set up. Surprised to see the springs were actually bright green when they arrived but that said VR6 all over them so I'm gueesing I got the right parts.

Definetly better ion the corners and not too bumpy on edinburgh streets. The stated lowering of 30mm seems to be about right so I have all the front clearance I need.

In fairness, not quite as sporty as the FK coilovers I had before, but, as I said, I needed a compromise

I'd recommend this set up to anyone not wishing simply to replace a tired original set up with something just a little firmer.