nezzi21 27 Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 im in the process of building a mk2 vr6 track car and its been suggested to me that i should fit an uprated oil cooler. now my question is whats the advantages of fitting 1? and whats the best 1,s to go for? also is it advisable to fit 1 to my vr6 road car?cheers in advance Link to post Share on other sites
xyber 1 Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Well worth it to keep all the temps down, mocal or setrab are the main suspects, 13 row is good, 16 row for track use. Ive got a 16 row that I cover a few rows with a thin piece of alloy for normal road use as in cold weather it does run a little cool, then when needed just take the piece of alloy away for extra coolingdont forget to use a thermostatic sandwich plate aswell, but most places supply them in the kits now anywayBin off the original heat exchanger aswel, then the oil and coolant wont be interfering with each others tempBought mine from The Phirm, it arrived the morning after orderingFit a Neuspeed low temp coolant stat aswelMine is charged and even when Im playing I very rarly get above 94-96 oil temp and road use it sits around 80 Link to post Share on other sites
rodney 17 Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 what he said and I got mine done at phirm....... Stealth will do you a kit also. Link to post Share on other sites
Phat VR6 3 Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 13 row is good' date=' 16 row for track use. Ive got a 16 row that I cover a few rows with a thin piece of alloy for normal road use as in cold weather it does run a little cool,[/quote']Doesn't it come with a thermerstate so it only sends the oil to the cooler when it needs to?? Link to post Share on other sites
xyber 1 Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 yep, but when it opens, with having the large cooling area of a 16 row, the temp drops down dramatically when the stat opens, even more so in the sub zero weather we are having recently13 row starts to cool at 80, oils sits at around say 90with a 16 row the oil temp will sit bang on 80 at normal road use, so i cover a few rows just to up that a bit Link to post Share on other sites
nezzi21 27 Posted January 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 what kinda money is in the 13 row kit?? Link to post Share on other sites
xyber 1 Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 TBH there not much between the 2 kits, around £150if you should go for the 16 row and are fitting it on the passenger side behind the small bumper vent ask for all the fittings to be 90 degress angles instead of 2 x 90's and 2 x straightswith the 90 fittings on the bottom of the 16 row, you lift the hoses up away from the road and up above the bottom of the bumperwith the straight fittings on the bottom of a 16 row they and the hoses are dangerously close to the road by the time the hose loops around without kinking Link to post Share on other sites
Lizard Racing 0 Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 Am I right in thinking you run your cooler inverted then? Link to post Share on other sites
xyber 1 Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 yeah, as its so low down you dont get any problems doing it like that, its easy to fit in that position with lots of room and really good airflow and isnt in the way of the airflow to the rad. Just made up a T shape bracket out of alloy angle and bolted it to the front chassis leg with plenty of underseal at the fixing point. works a treat Link to post Share on other sites
Phat VR6 3 Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 if you smooth off the 2 vents at the side can you put it infront of the rad? Link to post Share on other sites
xyber 1 Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 yep, itll just about squeeze in(think theres more room on the passenger side as its on a slant), you may need to cut 2 holes for the hoses going to it, in the rad cowling but its not too much to work aroundif you take the front bumper off, loosen the screws on the slam panel and pull it out abit (about 1.5inches mine went) it gives you more room to manouvre, if you get the front wheels on ramps or axle stands aswel, even betterpositioning the thermoplate and reassembling can be abit cack handed, so lying on your back in a comfy position helps no end Link to post Share on other sites
nezzi21 27 Posted January 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 any pics of 1 installed?? im defo getting 1 for the mk2 but i wasnt sure if it would be worth it for my mk3 daily. Link to post Share on other sites
rodney 17 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 mines in front of the rad. See supercharging FAQ for how mine went in..... Link to post Share on other sites
rigs 0 Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 We ran a 19 row cooler on a ~200bhp vr6 mk2 track car and it was just about adequate for prolonged ragging in warm/hot (by English standards) weather.Go with as large as you can fit in a place with decent airflow Covering it for road use is a must - the thermostatic pickup plates dont seem to completely shut off the feed to the cooler - with ours not covered the oil temperature would drop below 50 degrees if it started raining etc... Link to post Share on other sites
nezzi21 27 Posted January 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 what can i use to cover the cooler for road use? Link to post Share on other sites
xyber 1 Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Ive used all sorts, at the moment ive got a strip of cardboard box cable tied around it Link to post Share on other sites
rigs 0 Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 Ideally get a sheet of reasonably hardly plastic, drill some holes in the corners and cable tie it Cardboard will get wet in the rain and disintegrate eventually - which sounds like unnessessary faff to me Link to post Share on other sites
xyber 1 Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 yeah its only a temp fix, got a small sheet of carbon fiber coming to do it with, just gotta wait till the guy has an off cut Link to post Share on other sites
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