uber-tub 0 Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 I know I'm as thick as a donkey sandwich but could some kind soul tell me if performance cams need to be bought in pairs for the 12V motor? Piper, Kent and Schrick seem to sell them singularly. Ta. mik. Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Pete 1,455 Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 well I've got 2x268 Schrick's in mine, so I assume you would require 2. Link to post Share on other sites
VRmonster 1 Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 the 2 sets of cams control intake and exhaust (front and rear respectively) so if you just wanted to open up the intake a little longer then you would buy the intake cam, vice versa for the exhaust. but for best results get a set of tuned cams in a pair. much easier. theyre just available in singles as people try to tune their cars in different ways so it gives more options. Link to post Share on other sites
uber-tub 0 Posted June 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2005 thanks folks. Is it necessary to use vernier pulleys or can the existing pulleys be used with performance cams? Link to post Share on other sites
BoostedOne 0 Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 the 2 sets of cams control intake and exhaust (front and rear respectively) so if you just wanted to open up the intake a little longer then you would buy the intake cam' date=' vice versa for the exhaust. but for best results get a set of tuned cams in a pair. much easier. theyre just available in singles as people try to tune their cars in different ways so it gives more options.[/quote']Are you F"ING MAD?! You oughta watch out or read up before you go givin out advice.The cams on a 12V DO NOT have one operating the intake valve and one operating the exhaust valve. The front cam controls intake and exhaust of cyls 2,4,6, while the rear cam controls intake and exhaust of 1, 3, and 5.if you just replaced one cam you would have one bad running engine. Link to post Share on other sites
uber-tub 0 Posted June 30, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 blood and sand! I'd better get my reading spectacles out. Cheers folks. Link to post Share on other sites
stockers 1 Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 steady on boosted one,we find being polite goes a long way over here in england, if you think someone has given the wrong information there are better ways of saying it!! if you can't be polite-fuck off somewhere else ! Link to post Share on other sites
MrBen 0 Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 I think there is some confusion here between 12v and 24v VR engines. On a 12v, the cams work like any traditional 12v V6 engine - one looks after inlet and exhaust for 1,3,5 and the other inlet and exhaust for 2,4,6.On the 24v, one camshaft does inlet and the other exhaust, using a rather trick bit of head design.This website explains it pretty well: http://www.autozine.org/technical_school/engine/tech_engine_packaging.htm Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 steady on boosted one' date='we find being polite goes a long way over here in england, if you think someone has given the wrong information there are better ways of saying it!! if you can't be polite-fuck off somewhere else ! [/quote']ie fit in or fu err i mean go away lol Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 You could just have easily said 1 cam per bank people....it is a V6 after all.The 24v is still DOCH, but 4 valve per cyl using some clever rocker arms techniques.I can see where the DOHC confusion is coming from though.....something I have to remind myself about when working on the VR as my background is 16v. Link to post Share on other sites
BoostedOne 0 Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Sorry to get yall's panties wadded up. I just get a lil riled up when people talk about something they don't know about as if they actually have a clue, without first saying "From what I understand", or "I think", etc.If the thread starter was unfortunate enough to follow this guy's advice he would be at a loss as to why his car runs like ass. Uknown to him, it was because of what someone on the internet told him, and he must be right because he's got a high post count. I have spent many many hours chasing problems that were caused by misinformation received on a forum by someone who wanted to resond just to hear himself talk or see his words on the screen. Probably someone who meant well, but, me at the time knowing nothing about the subject it looked like pretty good info, and since I didnt know I couldnt tell the poster was talking out of his rear. I see people giving advice all the time that will range from not working, to troubleshooting stuff that is a waste of time, to advice that would downright damage an engine/transmission if done. For instance, just today on another board a guy is askin if he should be worried about his chain guides at 80K. Some guy responds telling him that because of the price of fixing them, and because all that happens is little peices of the guide fall off and make noise, dont worry about it until the chain fails, then fix it. WTF kind of advice is that????Well, I guess I will go "f-off". Its been grand. Link to post Share on other sites
FishWick 21 Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Don't sweat it, it's Friday!Yes misinformation is the biggest problem on any technical forum and I agree, people should really state things that are in their opinion as opposed to matter of fact but we're only human and learning to cohabit is a must. The thread was duly answered and the gentleman concerned now knows that the VR6 has 1 cam per bank of cylinders, getting all fired up in the middle of it like an angry school teacher achieves nothing but undue stress and bad feeling....We are not the Vortex, we're easier going and more forgiving here you'll find. So you can either relax a little, share some of your knowledge and join in....or hover round the Vortex arguing. Your choice. Link to post Share on other sites
purple highline monster 0 Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 EH EH EH CALM DOWN, "its just a commercial dear" and other well known frases! :@ i just found this thread and its all a bit hostile!!!!!! too much testostarone and engine oil guys!! Link to post Share on other sites
Pittuf 0 Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Here here...chill out everyone.If you think/know someone has given wrong advice tell them by all means, but being aggresive and abusive about it just gives out the wrong impression. Link to post Share on other sites
binliner 0 Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Come on give the guy a break... telling a newbie to fit in or f off after one post isnt really much of a welcome is it? Especially when he has a point! Just need to make allowances for him being American Link to post Share on other sites
vr6freak 3 Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 calm down-calm down. take a chill pill. theres no need for anyone to get there thong in a twist !amazed Link to post Share on other sites
andy 0 Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 The guy was right. More allowance required imo. Would be a shame if the thread starter had gone to the trouble of changing one cam only to realise it wasn't the right thing to do. Thats one of the problems with forum postings and emails, no face to face communication. I think some people have been far harsher in their response to this guy than he ever was. It's a shame to lose an international visitor, a knowledgeable one at that. Link to post Share on other sites
stockers 1 Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 mmm.....didn't mean to add fuel to the flames ( to use a appalling cliche) with the FO, not really my place . just thought he could have been less aggressive Link to post Share on other sites
Eat this 2 Posted July 1, 2005 Report Share Posted July 1, 2005 Sorry to get yall's panties wadded up. I just get a lil riled up when people talk about something they don't know about as if they actually have a clue' date=' without first saying "From what I understand", or "I think", etc.If the thread starter was unfortunate enough to follow this guy's advice he would be at a loss as to why his car runs like ass. Uknown to him, it was because of what someone on the internet told him, and he must be right because he's got a high post count. I have spent many many hours chasing problems that were caused by misinformation received on a forum by someone who wanted to resond just to hear himself talk or see his words on the screen. Probably someone who meant well, but, me at the time knowing nothing about the subject it looked like pretty good info, and since I didnt know I couldnt tell the poster was talking out of his rear. I see people giving advice all the time that will range from not working, to troubleshooting stuff that is a waste of time, to advice that would downright damage an engine/transmission if done. For instance, just today on another board a guy is askin if he should be worried about his chain guides at 80K. Some guy responds telling him that because of the price of fixing them, and because all that happens is little peices of the guide fall off and make noise, dont worry about it until the chain fails, then fix it. WTF kind of advice is that????Well, I guess I will go "f-off". Its been grand.[/quote']when i said fit in or f off i was jokin mate chill out ur more than welcome here and so r your opinions Link to post Share on other sites
BoostedOne 0 Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 Heh, Im not stressed or upset.I guess for the most part I was just floored at how rediculous the post was, to which I typed what was really going through my mind, although abbreviated. I guess its a good thing I didnt really say what I was thinkin Link to post Share on other sites
badboyV6 4 Posted July 3, 2005 Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 As others here have reiterated boosted one- this is a really friendly forum, and although there was an incorrect reply it was easily corrected by yourself in the first instance, and im sure other people have learnt from this too :-) It may be frustrating sometimes but try to just point out the facts without performing a character assualt :-) Anyway mate, hello and welcome :-) Link to post Share on other sites
uber-tub 0 Posted July 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2005 damn! wish I'd never asked. But glad I did. (does that make sense)?thanks for all the info - I think we can put this one to bed now.mik Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Pete 1,455 Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 This is a local forum for local people..... Link to post Share on other sites
binliner 0 Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 since when??? lol! Link to post Share on other sites
purple highline monster 0 Posted July 4, 2005 Report Share Posted July 4, 2005 and people with tourettes ay!!!! %-6 Link to post Share on other sites
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