dom.joy 87 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I have been looking into doing some track days in my VR6 and thinking about getting an oil cooler. I would get one with a thermostat as its a daily driver. Do you have to delete the original? Do the kits that get sold require additional parts, ie spacers etc? What about the pipes off the crack pipe if original is deleted?Anyone have any pros/cons to fitting an external oil cooler? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
Daverse 175 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 you get whats called a sandwich plate, which basically replaces the oil cooler, but i dont know where the crack pipes outlets go, i know if you get a billet one you can get them deleted. then theres pipes coming off to a heat exchanger that you mount somewhere and jobs done hope that helps to a certain degree. the downside (Especially if you arent getting a thermostatic one) is they can over cool the oil, it depends how many rows the exchanger has. Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedMotorsport 55 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I would recommend not removing the stock oil/water 'cooler' We sell a tube that allows you to fit the stock 'cooler' along with a sandwich plate. This way it is not possible for the oil to be cooled below the factory specifications and it allows the water to be heated by the oil during the warm up of the engine. The Duke, VR6Pete and Nex 3 Link to post Share on other sites
dom.joy 87 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I didn't really want to delete the stock for those reasons but would like to cool oil for track days. Does keeping the stock item cause clearance issues? Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedMotorsport 55 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Does keeping the stock item cause clearance issues? None what so ever. Link to post Share on other sites
dom.joy 87 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Looks like I will be in touch. There's a couple other bits I want like weld in sump baffles Link to post Share on other sites
UnitedMotorsport 55 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Send us an email, we will get you sorted VR6Pete 1 Link to post Share on other sites
dom.joy 87 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Will do come pay day Link to post Share on other sites
MaidenVR6 26 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I got the UM oilcooler setup. Works great! VR6Pete and Daverse 2 Link to post Share on other sites
dom.joy 87 Posted January 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Where did you get the rest of the kit? Link to post Share on other sites
dom.joy 87 Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Bumping this.I have my United Motorsport tube but I'm a bit confused how the oil gets cooled/heated by the stock cooler as the holes don't seem to line up with the stock cooler only the sandwich plate. Unless I have got confused. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
dom.joy 87 Posted December 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Might have got myself confused. Does oil enter the cooler from the cap side or block side?So oil could run through the tube to the cap then through the sandwich plate then through the top of the factory cooler then to block?or other way round?? Link to post Share on other sites
CALICO 130 Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 yep that way. Link to post Share on other sites
Lowlifedubber 9 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 I also used the UM tube and fitted a Mocal thermostatically controlled sandwich plate to feed a 19 row Mocal oil cooler.I never even thought about the benefits of using the original cooler to heat the oil until matey at UM sais so.Looks trick and no clearance issues c00k, VR6Pete, D11PS and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
dom.joy 87 Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 I also used the UM tube and fitted a Mocal thermostatically controlled sandwich plate to feed a 19 row Mocal oil cooler.I never even thought about the benefits of using the original cooler to heat the oil until matey at UM sais so.Looks trick and no clearance issues Those photos are spot on. Can't wait to get mine sorted but other issues to solve first so it's on the back burner Link to post Share on other sites
Lowlifedubber 9 Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 If you need anymore I have some close up ones of it(the cooler) going together I believe. Feel free to find me on facefluff and i can link you up Gary Forrest pic is of a black mk3 VR6Pete and Lowlifedubber 2 Link to post Share on other sites
dom.joy 87 Posted December 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Spot on. Thanks mate Lowlifedubber 1 Link to post Share on other sites
dom.joy 87 Posted January 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Bump...May be a silly question but how much oil will I lose taking off the existing cooler cap to replace with my elongated bolt and sandwich plate? Link to post Share on other sites
Swivelonit 119 Posted January 19, 2015 Report Share Posted January 19, 2015 Hardly anything, when I did mine there was just a small amount as the oil had drained back to sump. Slightly different set up on the MK 4 AUE engine though as the cooler is on top of the oil filter housing. I removed it totally and fitted the sandwich plate in its place and mounted a 19 row cooler in front of the radiator in the upper part of the grill. Link to post Share on other sites
dom.joy 87 Posted January 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2015 Hardly anything, when I did mine there was just a small amount as the oil had drained back to sump. Slightly different set up on the MK 4 AUE engine though as the cooler is on top of the oil filter housing. I removed it totally and fitted the sandwich plate in its place and mounted a 19 row cooler in front of the radiator in the upper part of the grill. Awesome thanks Link to post Share on other sites
VR6Pete 1,455 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Engine porn! Lowlifedubber 1 Link to post Share on other sites
tonygti 22 Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 I would recommend not removing the stock oil/water 'cooler' We sell a tube that allows you to fit the stock 'cooler' along with a sandwich plate. This way it is not possible for the oil to be cooled below the factory specifications and it allows the water to be heated by the oil during the warm up of the engine.i need this please how can i order one as i wanna also use the stock oil cooler? Link to post Share on other sites
travylaflame 0 Posted June 9, 2018 Report Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) On 1/16/2014 at 8:14 AM, UnitedMotorsport said: I would recommend not removing the stock oil/water 'cooler' We sell a tube that allows you to fit the stock 'cooler' along with a sandwich plate. This way it is not possible for the oil to be cooled below the factory specifications and it allows the water to be heated by the oil during the warm up of the engine. I want to run this setup with factory oil cooler and sandwich plate for a thermostatic oil cooler. I would like to purchase the extension tube from you. Also, will I encounter clearance issues with the crack pipe if I ran your extension tube, OEM oil cooler and the Mocal thermostatic sandwich plate? Mocal Sandwich Plate Kit: https://www.bahnbrenner.com/media/php/catalog.php?pid=1390&opt_id= Edited June 9, 2018 by travylaflame Link to post Share on other sites
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