project vr turbo - less than a grand - thread cleaned and updated 19 05 2009

[jims13 6]

well, ive decided to bite the bullet so to speak and build a turbo lump, im keeping it simple and for the time being only goign for 8-10 psi. yesterday i picked up a complete vr lump for 50 quid, so that will be stripped and ill replace what i need to .

im gonnan order a turbo manifold from over here, so it fits and the rest is coming from the states, as its rude not to exploit the exchange rate.

im gonna run a begi fmu unit to take car of the fueling , and will stick my 263 cams in it when its ready.

not to sure on what intercooler yet, but im looking at someof the cossie one's

ill post pics as i go along, oh, and im hoping to do this for less than a grand, im sure some people will say it cant be done, but i think it can , and as most of what i need will be sourced of ebay / secondhand or via the states then i think ill have a chance.

ive just brought my engine stand and am borrowing a hoist to get the engine out the back of my van, once its in the garage ill start the project proper.

wish me luck, and tips welcome..

jim

[jesterwalker69 0]

Good luck mate, and if you succeed (which i hope u do) i will be dropping my VR off for you to do the exact same thing on! haha

Good luck fella

[jims13 6]

cheers oli, im sourcing a t3/4 turbo and then im gonna pinch some ideas of off the other turbo threads ive been reading up on..a grand should be enough providing this engine i picked up is ok, upon first looks , it looks fine..

[tubby 0]

Turbo vr for less than a grand bring it on cant wait

[jims13 6]

nor can i , im hoping to make a purcashe of most of the bits i need next week.

doing some block paving this weekend to pay for most of the project

[philbatesvr6 0]

i will be watching this thread lol,

you will ahve to do a poor mans turbo kit list jim of where and how to get all the stuff from lol

[mike 6]

mate you should have a medal if you pull it off, or get a mag feature or soemthing.... good luck with it, dont you need to have soem pipe work custom welded?

[xyber 1]

I think its do-able, may just take the time to find stuff at the right price

For you injectors try this dude

http://stores.ebay.com/Spray-It-Racing

He's very helpful and cheap as chips, if what you want isnt listed just mail him and he'll list them up for you, IIRC he quoted me about £130 delivered for a set of redtops back last summer!

[Phat VR6 3]

Fair play... Its going to be a tight one lol. Seen this the other day which is full of bits that are probaly usefullhttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/vr6-turbo-kit_W0QQitemZ320249766531QQihZ011QQcategoryZ36680QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[jims13 6]

ah yeh got that listing, i think its do-able.

if you look at what you need, you need

tubby, manifold, oil and water feeds, intercooler, pipework, silcon hoses , fmu unit, spacer gasket and a engine, them bits is the bulk of it. im not paying top dollar for say 440 injectors, when i no that the skyline boys throw them away after a boost upgrade !

i may use a guy called jap andy on ebay , as ive had loads of stuff of of him when i had my 200 sx's (i had 4), intercooler pipework and the downpipe will be made in house, as i have a welder and more power tools than your local plant hire shop, i also have a very handy to know brother in law (mot tester) , who has asked to help , just as long as he can have a go. !

costs so far

engine 50 quid

engine stand 50 quid - i will sell this at the end of the build to reqoup some cost.

i will also nearer the end of the build have a obx 6 branch for sale with a 2.5 flexi welded into it, to stop any cracks.

[jesterwalker69 0]

engine stand 50 quid - i will sell this at the end of the build to reqoup some cost.

No u wont coz u need it when u give mine the treatment for 1k remember!! haha

i will also nearer the end of the build have a obx 6 branch for sale with a 2.5 flexi welded into it' date=' to stop any cracks.

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Hurry up then lol coz i think my box is on the way out Easier to get into 1st if i put it in 2nd first then into 1st *-)

[Ben Seabrook 4]

Good luck mate will be reading this with interest

[jims13 6]

oli, that sounds more like a streched cable or poorly aligned linkage, check the bolts and washers on the gearbox end, they do wear and can come loose , giving very similar problems

[cabrioman 6]

i did look at turbo b4 i charged mine think it can be done but i wasnt to sure ... good luck mate and if u need help give us a shout ... when its done be good to compair charger vs turbo .... oh and pm sent to u ...

[Lizard Racing 0]

Its the little things that will add up. Spark plugs, head bolts, rod bolts, DV, air filter, clutch, remap, map sensor, coolant, oil etc

[Jimbo-VR6 0]

DONT Forget Mr Screed / Potter my VR will also be using your stand to biuld mine aswell. I think you are going to be a busy little fella. !! lol

[jims13 6]

lizard, as im only going to run 8 psi, im plannig on using my new orig clutch, filter i already have, i also have a afr gauge, dv ive got, for the remap , im gonna leave it alone for the time being and see how it runs on standard management with just a begi fmu unit. rest of the fabrication work im doing myself , as i have a welder and cutting / mitre tools.

but i no what you mean, it is the little things that add up, luckily ive had a few turbo'd motors before , so i still have some bits lying around that i can make use of.

i may use the megasquirt ecu as i had one before and was impressed with it. but im gonna try to get it runnig on a standard ecu. with all that said its gonna be the top end of my 1000 pound budget when its all done.

[jims13 6]

right a quick update

ive compiled a excel spreadsheet , so i can track my budget

if i take off the schimal cams which i had ordered previous to the desicion then im at 548 squids for evrything bar the turbo, if i add the cams to the build price then its 742 squids leaving just over 200 quid for gaskets and bolts etc...

told ya i could do it

wether or not it will is a different matter

ill post the sheet later for your browsing, and hopefully the build will start next week, ill update with pictures and a list as i go.

[Phat VR6 3]

but your missing the main bit.... The turbo. Thought they cost around £800?

[jims13 6]

nah, turbos dont cost 800 squid, well they do if you buy them from shops, but if youlook and no what to look for you can get them for around 300 new, or 100-150 second hand.

[Phat VR6 3]

Ah fair enuff then... So because your only going for 9psi does this mean a smaller turbo can be used? How much power to exspecting to make?

Im going to see how u get along then think about doing it myself... I always thought that i was going to turbo my car id go all out LSD forsed rods ect ect

Low boost turbos never crossed my mind but for the money its def worth thinking about. Surpose u can always uprate things later when you want more power

[ingham 5]

would a nissan 200sx turbo do ?

i may have one that needs a rebuild

[UnitedMotorsport 55]

200sx turbo is far too small.

[jims13 6]

ingham , i was gonna use a t28 from a 200sx , i had 4 of these cars before so i thought it would be ok, i also used to have a table of the.ar hot and cold sides and when it would spool etc..sadly i lost it.

the earlier 200sx's run t25 which i agree are to small , on the 200 they can only really do around 1 bar.

the later s14's had a t28 , good for a little more , maybe a bar and a half.

the pulsars had a t28 with slighlty different internals, which spooled better.

as it is im probaly going to go t3/4 .

[jims13 6]

phat vr6, im hoping to run around 8-10 psi, i no people that have just bolted them to the engine with no intercooler or spacer gasket , and had good results.

im using a spacer gasket , intercooler, and sticking my schimmel cams in , so hopefully around 300 bhp.. i believe 8 psi will be around 280 bhp.

im then gonna run a custom chip or a custom ecu when funds allow, but i want the car built and on the road for under a grand.. im still on line for this if i can get a tubby at a good price..im not fussed if its new, just that it works. most of my 200 sx'x ( i had 4) were built on a budget using ebay / japan arts all of which were seconhand, i only buy new if i have to or if its a critical part. i.e brakes , suspension, engine components. starters, alternators etc im happy to take a chance on .