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Right, just had my car at dub sport for a week to have the head gasket done and most of the oil seals replaced aswel, the head was stripped down, skimmed, de coked etc, new water pump and loads of other little bits and pieces. Anyway, the bill came to 1663.51 ! I nearlly had a fu**in heart attack. iI was driving home to cumbria when blue smoke started pouring out of the exhaust, this happened for about 60 miles and now it's stopped, i topped up the oil and checked it 50 miles later and it's half way between max and min on the dip stick ! Any ideas ? also my average oil temp is up to 100 under normal driving conditions and it gets up to 112 when driven hard. I'm so stressed with it and to top it off the diff exploded on sunday leaving a big hole in the back of the gear box !

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i would be stressed to mate, i would be on the phone asap, i'd be wanting to know what the hell is going on. for almost £1700 your car should not be pumping out blue smoke. sorry to say this mate, but driving and getting it hot may have done more damage to the engine.

keep us up to date on what happens.

roey

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I was reading a thread earlier from someone who ad similar problems to mine on his corrado, He was saying that because the engine was running at the correct temp now that he'd had the head gasket done that it may be causing it to burn oil due to piston rings. My cars oil temp has always been between 100 and 112 so i was wondering if it might need a new oil pump ? Are these expensive and costly to fit and where is it located in the engine ?

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They told me 350 plus the vat for the head gasket being done, but they kept saying that they wouldn't know how much it was going to cost until it was finished. I was expecting half the cost to be honest.

I'm thinking about putting 15w40 oil in it to see if it helps the oil consumption, what do you think ?

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They told me 350 plus the vat for the head gasket being done' date=' but they kept saying that they wouldn't know how much it was going to cost until it was finished. I was expecting half the cost to be honest.

I'm thinking about putting 15w40 oil in it to see if it helps the oil consumption, what do you think ?

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How does £350 spiral into nearly £1700 ! ? !

If you were indeed quoted £350 but told they were unsure of what the final cost would be I would have not paid anymore than £500-600 for the job.

As has been said, full engine rebuild using uprated parts can be done for around the same price as you have paid for a headgastket and some oil seals.

I would make sure I got a list of every part they have used and then work out the Labour in hours it should have taken them to do the work (Each Job has a book time ;-) ) and then ask them WTF they are doing !

I seriously can't believe you have paid i already though :-)

Mark.

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If they get funny just quote the Sales of Goods Act - if the goods/service/product you have paid for is not to a reasonale expected standard in any way you are entitled to get it all rectified (you have up to 6 years to claim this) and if they can't rectify it they are liable to give a full refund.

Glad you pointed them out. Certainly not a garage I'll be trusting my VR with. Not knowing how much it will cost is rediculous. Hope you get it all sorted out. Not the hassle you need at all!

You mentioned above you didn't know how much it would cost until it was all done...Did they not ring you up as they went along and said "this and this needs doing and it will cost this amount extra on top of the quote"? They just went ahead without your authorisation and did a load of extra work??! Very unprofessional. If this is the case you could sue them in the small claims court - at the very least make a complaint about them with Trading Standards. I'm sure you must have some rights in this kind of case.

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They phoned me to tell me the bits that needed doing but they could never give me a price when i asked. they told me that the piston rings on cylinders one and two were on their waydue to oil fouling on the spark plugs, but it was using less than half the amount it is now that i've got it back, is this normal due to everything on the top half working correctly thus making the pistons suck oil up into the bores when backing off perhaps ? If so, then perhaps it isn't their fault as i told them not to do the rings because they quoted me an extra 1500 qwid to do them !

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basically just compare your car to before they had it and now after. From what you have said you have a lot more problems after receiving the car back - therefore they should fix all the problems properly free of charge...end of story. If they don't then get trading standards on to them. One thing I would do is ring up another specialist like Vince at Stealth to get their opinion mate on the likely causes and what has likely gone wrong since Dub Sport had your car. Either way your car should be running a lot better now, not worse. Sounds like a real hassle mate.

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I phoned them this morning and they said to bring it back down so they can take a look at it' date=' they've agreed that it shouldn't be using more oil than it was before i took it down. Just hope they are willing to at least try and sort it out.

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not to mention 60 miles of smoking!

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They phoned me to tell me the bits that needed doing but they could never give me a price when i asked. they told me that the piston rings on cylinders one and two were on their waydue to oil fouling on the spark plugs' date=' but it was using less than half the amount it is now that i've got it back, is this normal due to everything on the top half working correctly thus making the pistons suck oil up into the bores when backing off perhaps ? If so, then perhaps it isn't their fault as i told them not to do the rings because they quoted me an extra 1500 qwid to do them !

Not good, that at all mate but are you not just (expensively) masking an underlying problem by not having the piston rings done?

As has already been said you could have an engine rebuild for the money you spent let alone the extra £1500 it would have cost to get the piston rings done.

They sound to me like they are a committing daylight robbery!!!!

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Yeah, their based in wigan. I've been talking to someone local who works on them every day and he reckons to just run it for a few hundred miles and let it bed in again, said he's seen it happen before. Also he reckons that vr's using a litre of oil every 600-1000 miles is bull shit. I trust him as he's just finished building a mk1 vr6 turbo with 500 bhp in it, so he must know what he's doing. Can't get back on the road till mid next week anyway to test it as the gear box blew, so awaiting the new one being fitted.

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i had my engine rebuilt a few months ago, had f**k all confidence in the mechanic who had the car, (my timing chains blew, so i got the car to a local garage) he tried giving me the old "we wont know till its apart" rubbish!!, the head needed welding, but he wasnt interested in doing any actual labour intensive porting and polishing, probably wouldnt have changed all the valves, i told him to just quote me on the stripdown and rebuild, he said £1200:00, i got the head done from an engineering firm in kent who charged me £650:00,but this was for all new stems, followers, valves, ported and polished inlet and outlets, and flowed throttle body. now the car feels unbelievably better to drive, so the money u spent isnt that much probably, but if it still isnt running bang on, u need to get back to these clowns!!!

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Thats very poor mate! I was in a similar predicament when my head gasket went and they couldn't give me a exact figure, but as it turned out it was close enough. Got to say they really have taken you for a bit of a ride there. I had my gasket done a few months ago which included, all new seals + Gaskets head needed some ally welding and skimming and a valve seat recutting, The total with labout was £610 and it runs like a dream.

You really need to take it back and tell them for that amont of money it wants to run like brand new!!! I really feel for you though.. i've been taken for a ride by a couple of garages in the past and it sucks ass!

Did they give you a itemised bill atall?

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